Skip to comments.So you say you want a revolution?
Posted on 11/29/2016 6:53:10 PM PST by 45Auto
There's a lot of talk about the consequences of massive election fraud putting Hillary in office and what to do about it if it comes to pass; here's a few numbers of what patriots would be up against if things got nasty. The Rats don't fear CWII because they have a large group of people who would be their proxies in any civil unrest that might arise. Here's a few statistics to mull over:
The Army, Navy, Marine, Coast Guard, and Air Force Reserve components are not under state control and are solely funded by the federal government.
The projected active duty end strength in the armed forces for FY 2017 was 1,281,900 people, with an additional 801,200 people in the seven reserve components.
In 2008, federal police employed approx. 120,000 full-time law enforcement officers, authorized to make arrests and carry firearms in the United States. The 2012 Bureau of Justice Statistics' Census of State and Local Law Enforcement Agencies (CSLLEA), found there were 17,985 state and local law enforcement agencies employing at least one full-time officer or the equivalent in part-time officers. In 2008, state and local law enforcement agencies employed more than 1.1 million people on a full-time basis, including about 765,000 sworn personnel (defined as those with general arrest powers). Agencies also employed approximately 100,000 part-time employees, including 44,000 sworn officers. That's about 3,5 million armed federal, state, and local personnel.
That presume that ALL of them will readily follow illegal orders.
People generally do what they are paid to do.
And the majority of them voted Trump...interesting dilemma. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
Posting “what good is a handgun against an army” in 3.....2...1...
You make the assumption that the National Guard and police forces are:
1.) Not composed of Patriots
2.) Going to answer to Hillary.
I would suggest that neither are correct assumptions.
Against a citizen army of 10,000,000?
Nevertheless, it’s impossible to avoid the implication that you’re making here, that they’re all oath breakers.
Not that I necessarily disagree, but the profound nature of the statement should be made more prominent, as that further implies that the US is already a military dictatorship, under the covers.
If that’s the case, let’s discuss that. It seems pretty darned important.
As a former soldier I can tell you I wouldn't; I'd shoot the Officer who gave the order.
And I'm in the majority.
When threatened with prison, or even just the loss of their ability to support their family, most will do as ordered. Sad, but we’ve already seen it on multiple occasions
Well, Obama did say at the outset of his presidency that he wanted to have a domestic armed force to counteract any “violent terrorist acts” that might occur. Almost every federal agency and department employs an armed enforcement division, which by now may number over 200,000 armed personnel with arrest powers. Your comment on the oath to “Protect and Defend the Constitution” is a good one; In addition, Obama is on a path to Federalize the entire LE structure in the US. I know a lot of local police departments with some pretty sophisticated hardware; they look a lot like a military unit.
Of course we would have no chance fighting against our own military and not much chance they would kill their own people either.
Not sure what you point is but we won. Disaster has been averted unless the leftist insist on starting it.
The thing is no Americans lost when Trump won. Yes, those here illegally and those who have literally been getting away with murder will soon have to leave or be deported or tried and jailed or killed during apprehension.
If the ugly one would have won everyone would have lost because she would have let the swarms in to destroy America for good. At that point we would have no choice but to fight; literally die fighting if need be because we would have lost everything. A well armed people with nothing left to lose can be a formidable opponent.
Let me ask you who do you think our targets would be? Remember we would be fighting a guerilla war.
What kind of organization and logistics would a 10 million man militia require?
I think it would be a problem if you phrased the question, “What good is one guy with a handgun against a platoon of SWAT officers?”
The first targets would be those attempting to confiscate firearms.Then move on to command and control people.
I don’t want anyone to think I’m anti LEO; I am fully 100% behind any LEO who takes his oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution seriously. I have trained with several ex-military and ex LEO combat pistol instructors and I certainly know what they would do if the SHTF.
You’re right. I just wonder what the worst case scenario might be.
If the great majority of the 3.5 million mentioned above were of like mind, I would rest easy.
Well, without picking at any of the numbers and what they actually represent, the real key here is awareness that when crap comes down, all bets and predictions go away very quickly.
There is just no way of knowing how a lot of people would react and then act on either side until it actually happens.
How much of the US military strength is currently occupied outside the US? How much of that could be brought home on short notice? And without igniting a huge mess in multiple parts of the globe with the power vacuum created by withdrawing?
The US military has never had to deal with guerilla warfare of the potential scale here. No one really has. Uncharted territory. The sheer magnitude of the geography of this country is very daunting when you start talking about subduing a rebellious population.
How much of a military force was required to control the few large urban areas of Iraq? Something like 1/2 million? Nowhere near the scale of the US and its major urban areas.
The easier safer thing to do is just shut the country down. Don’t go to work in what ever job you do. The unions do it without much trouble. What would happen if 10,000,000 job holding, taxpayers did it?
Don’t work, don’t spend, etc. No trains, no airplanes no communication. How many power plant workers are there that voted for Mr Trump?
War would be won without a shot fired.
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