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To: Bob434; Pelham
Dang Bobby you had me fooled for a second.....shit son you were just another anti Trumper.....no wonder your Trump history is so myopic...so how are you now on Donald

To: McGruff [[Ever hear Trump say anything bad about Cruz? Ever hear Cruz say anything bad about Trump? Ever wonder why?]] It’s because Cruz stands to pick up all the disgruntled voters who are going for trump when trump flames out or gets torn down by some scandal- Cruz is much like trump inthat he commands the respect of people who are fed up with businesss as usual in government, only cruz is a professional while trump is a one shot wonder who will likely fizzle out as people begin to realize he really isn’t presidential material 50 posted on 8/13/2015, 12:35:21 PM by Bob434 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: jpsb

To: JediJones Yep- trump is no conservative- and I’m not sure why conservatives are flocking to his side right now- I guess maybe because they think he’s a brilliant businessman who can get this ocutnry back to ‘the good times’ we knew in the 80’s-90’s when life was easy-ish I really believe trump will turn once in office- He’ll say what he needs to to win, then his true colors will be exposed- He might do the country some good financially, but the rest of his positions are no better than, and often worse than, the rino positions- 63 posted on 8/13/2015, 1:02:45 PM by Bob434 ( person running,) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

You really oughta bone up in free republic history

232 posted on 12/21/2016 3:10:10 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: wardaddy

LOL- I was never an anti trumper- Neither of those comments are never-trump- there’s a big difference between being pro one candidate over another durign a primary and a ‘never trumper’ after the peopel have spoken- I wish Donald well and I hope He will turn out to be the best thign since sliced bread- I have hope that he will be- but am cautiously reserved because of some of his positions-

Now I stand by my first comment there that Ted wasn’t badmouthing trump at the time because he felt- like a lot of conservatives did, that trump was going to fizzle out because they felt he wasn’t politically savvy enough to hold his own-

I’ve seen one shot wonders rise and fall before- and it looked at the time that it was going to happen again- Trump had scandals looming in the background at the time, and it looked like Herman Cain’s deal where he wasn’t going to survive them because the msm would hound him out of the running over them- Once again I was wrong- he comments about the scandal wasn’t ‘anti-trump- it was an attempt at reading the tea leaves- nothing more

IF you’ll be honest and go back through my comments you will note I said I WILL support whoever got the nomination and i tried making the case over and over again that people’s passions were high and that those that supported Cruz would eventually come around- just like they do every election by and large- -

Never once did you hear me say I was never trump- and infact I tried to convince never trumps to calm down and consider the fact that they would be contributing to a democrat win if they persisted-

It’s no secret I felt Cruz was the better candidate during the primaries- An I still feel he would have been a good President (however, if Trump turns out to do like roosevelt did by carrying a big stick and cleaning out the swamp- then I will gladly admit that trump was probably an even better outcome than Cruz because While I think Cruz might be tough- I think he was a little too establishment to buck the norm as aggressively as I think Trump ‘May’ accordign to how trump is talking now- but again, it remains ot be seen-)-

however, the people spoke and nominated trump and I support the nomination- Trump has since, as you point out- made some choices that I feel are quite conservative- and my opinion of him is changing some- but I’m STILL reserving any final opinion until I see him prove himself as he serves- We shall see- I have always been cautiously optimistic that the people’s choice will turn out to be the right one- We have yet to see how he will govern- it remains to be seen- and i will GLadly admit i was mistaken if he governs as a strong conservative and strong leader-

I still think some of his positions may turn out to be rino like if he caves on isues (and he’s giving off mixed signals on things like the paris agreement, climate change, going after hellery etc- Is he just playing with the dems? I don’t know- hopefully so- but hte optics certainly are making some folks nervous-)- but again I will gladly admit if I am wrong-

[[You really oughta bone up in free republic history]]

There is no need for me to- i know what i said and WHY i said them when i said them- Donald trump was an unknown- He wasn’t a politician, and many rightfully felt that he didn’t have the experience politically to lead- and quite frankly he held very liberal positions not long ago- I make no apologies for the conclusions i came up with at hte time- As I said i am now cautiously optimistic and hoping to hell he does what he said he will do- but if you will be honest about the situation- He has said things and done tights recently that have people nervous


233 posted on 12/21/2016 3:57:01 PM PST by Bob434
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To: wardaddy

I should have more accurately said I was never a ‘never trumper’- but I was pro Cruz during the primaries- I honestly felt at that time Trump was just saying what he needed to in order to get elected- We’ve been burned over and over and over by politicians who do exactly that-

I will say He is surprising me with many of his picks, and it APPEARS as though he is following through on much of what he was claiming during the primaries- and if so then fantastic- I hope my initial impressions of him were completely wrong- for the sake of this country- I hope he takes a water canon and cleans out the corruption that is rampant in government- He- as an outsider, is perhaps best suited to this task IF he can get the spineless rinos behind him to back him up- He may do - and hopefully so- what a politician, because of political correctness fear, would never dream of doing-

I went with what i felt was the right decision back then, the rest of the country didn’t agree- I’m fine with that- and respect their decision right or wrong- I believe based on what I’m seeing and hearing that I was the one who was wrong and I’m more than happy to admit it IF president trump holds the line- From what I’m seeing- it looks like he very well may- on most issues- but again- time will tell- I remain objective on the issue- just as i am objective about Cruz’s shortcommings that may have hindered his effectiveness at a time such as we’re in now- The pendulum seems to be swinging against the filth of he left- The people were very very angry with the way the country was going- and although I think Cruz would have made a pretty tough president in some areas, I’m not sure Cruz would have been as in your face as trump appears to be indicating he will be- let’s for the country’s sake- hope Trump proves my initial reservations about him wrong-


234 posted on 12/21/2016 4:12:57 PM PST by Bob434
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