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To: Bob434; Pelham; HarleyLady27; Mr. Mojo

I beg to differ

For those of us who lived it like Matt Bracken and I the history of Free Republic ebbs and flows is very relevant

And the Anti Trump mini exodus was no different though much smaller than the Giuliani exodus in 2007

Had your boy prevailed it would have been quite different around here but frankly given how vote wise Trump barely prevailed I’m convinced Cruz would have lost

So it’s better Trump who daily proves your assumptions about him inaccurate or Hillary where we know we lost

Trump won cause folks like him and his guts

Cruz simply doesn’t have that and to me jumped the shark proving utterly how craven he could be if he thought it would work the night he blamed the Soros army on the streets on Chicago on Trumps incitement

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3408130/posts?page=99

That was pathetic.

I posted that thread that night immediately upon seeing him do that and a number of folks disembarked the USS Cruz that night after seeing that spectacle ....my friend of many years Travis McGee for example

How any conservatives here continued to support him was beyond me

Likewise how many real culture warriors opposed Trump?

Kristol

Krauthammer

Hayes

Lowery

Goldberg

Graham

Mitt

McCain

Bushies

Rove

Kasich
You get my drift...drop the sour candy and ride with us...it’ll do u good


235 posted on 12/21/2016 5:14:29 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: wardaddy

Amen wardaddy ...


237 posted on 12/21/2016 5:28:14 PM PST by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: wardaddy

I stand by what i said for the reasons listed in previous posts-

I don’t agree Cruz would have lost- or any republican for that matter- the country was pissed- and more so when the email investigation was reopened- districts that went heavily for the current president in 2012 did not do so this election- she trailed him in the numbers badly in parts that should have been solidly hers-

I’m not suggesting Cruz would have been the right choice- but it remains to be seen-

[[Cruz simply doesn’t have that and to me jumped the shark proving utterly how craven he could be if he thought it would work the night he blamed the Soros army on the streets on Chicago on Trumps incitement

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3408130/posts?page=99

That was pathetic.]]

Please don’t even go there- after trump intimated that Cruz’s father might have had something to do with the assassination (By saying several times “He didn’t deny it) and intimating that Ted was a serial adulterer- and that Ted was ‘in bed with goldman sachs’ (then turning around and hiring a goldman sachs big wig himself)

[[Trump won cause folks like him and his guts]]

There were several re4ason why he won- that was just one- independents helped him quite a bit- not all because they liked his guts- but because they hated her guts- Heck even democrats didn’t like her enough to get out and vote in many places-

[[How any conservatives here continued to support him was beyond me]]

If you look at it objectively- the same could have been said of donald- his hands were not clean-

[[and ride with us...it’ll do u good]]

I don’t ride blindly- As I’ve said- I’ll look at the whole situation objectively and see what he does- it remains to be seen- it is too early to tell- But He will have my support while he is in office- as I’m cautiously optimistic as I’ve said before- He has done things to ease my mind, and he has done things to cause concern- I see many folks apologizing for everything trump does or says- ‘explaining it away’ as though he didn’t really mean them- Maybe he didn’t- I don’t know- but again it gets down to optics- and an objective analysis it must be said that some of the stuff he’s said seems to be a retraction of some issues he ran on- I’m NOT saying they are- but if you look at it objectively- you have to admit it ‘doesn’t look good’ to those who are wary of him-

and just for the record- I was on newsbusters in some pretty heated battles defending voting for trump against a couple of never-trumpers- They were just as bad as the never-romneys were who’s views were that it was better for America to suffer under socialism than to ‘compromise values’ by electing someone less than perfect in Romney- many even here on FR said this very thing back when Romney ran- I’ve watched this country sink further and further into the cesspool of liberalism ever since- and I didn’t want that same idiotic mentality to prevail this time too- We have suffered defeats that will never be undone - the damage is permanent- but it is my hope that trump can heal some of the crap that has been foisted on us because some republicans wanted to ‘teach ht party a lesson’-


239 posted on 12/21/2016 9:21:41 PM PST by Bob434
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To: wardaddy

listen- I went through the romeny debacle here on FR- the Palin wars- the McCain wars- watched republicans turn on Bush and accuse him of all kinds of crap here on Fr- etc etc etc- The primaries are over- Donald Trump has won- He has my support unless He betrays it (and that goes for any candidate- not just him)

The site got very guy this last election- Yes other elections were bad as well- but let’s give it a rest- it’s fatiguing- I do hope the best for trump- as i would any candidate who won - I hope he stays true to the things he ran on to the best of his ability- just as I would hope any candidate would- We don’t need to be at each other’s throats the whole time- He won- it’s over- Now he needs to deliver- as best he can- Even if he tries and fails that will be fine- at least he will have tried- but I’m betting he get this country financially solid again- ad think at the very least He has inspired some of the rinos to stop being such pushovers, and start actually representing hte people again- I DO believe that is where he shines-

I have been impressed with how many times he says “WE” in his tours- and how he went out on a huge thank you tour- what a stark difference between what we’ve had the last 8 years with mr “I Won!” who has done nothing but insult Americans and try to start race wars-

IF Donald can come through for the African American society in the inner cities and slums like he said- that will be huge huge huge for republicans - and may just turn the tide in republicans favor for decades to come- I DO believe he wants to try- and I DO believe he has a vision that the other candidates just didn’t because they were4 too much politicians first- people second-

As I said- I’ll not blindly ride along- but I will keep an eye on things and comment on the facts- good or bad- and I will make no apologies for it-


240 posted on 12/21/2016 9:42:53 PM PST by Bob434
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