Posted on 03/02/2017 10:38:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
Oh brother, it wasn't rape and they were both minors
Dad was within his rights. Unknown person breaks into house at three am. Will not stop. Charges Dad. Result was perfect
When I was seventeen (aeons ago), we all knew that “fifteen will get you twenty”.
He gave him ample warning from what I understand... to explain himself... as a father, he was protecting his family, daughter, from harm... personally, would have beat him silly
Daughter at fault. Hot pants.
Ahh. A little male-hating propaganda. All boys are predators and all sex is rape, right?
Trayvon Martin was a kid.
Comments as stupid as yldstrk just posted give humanity a bad reputation.
If my dog is barking at 2:30 AM because he senses an intruder, and I get my gun and search MY HOUSE, where upon some one bursts out of a closet, IT IS MY OBLIGATION TO SHOOT THE INTRUDER.
If you think differently, stay the hell out of my house, and if you come in at 2:30 AM you will be dead by 2:31 AM.
Somehow, that always seems to be the case when one of these discussion erupts.
What we don’t know is if the dad had implicitly prohibited the victim from entering the house.
That prohibition is implicit in the fact that he was the homeowner.
However, you cannot not go shooting everyone that your kid invites into the house and claim your kid’s friend is an intruder.
Absolutely. But if you don't know that the kid invited the person into your house, you have no other option than to conclude that the person is an intruder. At that point, with no input from the kid (who, in the worst case, might at that point be unconscious, dying, or dead), you do what you have to do to resolve the situation.
I don’t think the guy gets convicted but he may be bankrupted by the DA and a civil suit.
I'm afraid you're right.
The dad did not know he was invited into the house, he announced he had a gun, the kid charged out of a closet in the dark at 3AM...
Good shootin’ dad.
The daughter learned a lesson too.
The father did not act like a moron. He acted like a responsible father protecting his home and family.
The dog indicated where the young man had concealed himself. It was 2:30 in the morning when nobody, to the homeowner’s knowledge, was supposed to be visiting the home. He announced his presence, announced that he was armed and directed the young man to present himself and identify himself. The young man refused the opportunity to safely end the situation when HE chose to run at the armed homeowner in a darkened room.
The daughter did not speak up to end the potential danger. The young man did not speak up when specifically given the opportunity. The homeowner, in a darkened room, had an adult sized male figure run at him after being warned to identify himself and present himself safely.
I dare say any reasonable man under those facts and circumstances would have been inclined to do the same thing. I’m a former police officer and a former federal investigator. Under those same facts and circumstances I would have fired on the young man as well. The father here was not being a hot head nor was he acting foolishly.
Father sees an intruder.
14 year old daughter sees a chance to ride the c0ck carousel in order to ease her low self-esteem.
17 year old is living out some Penthouse Forum fantasy.
Posters that choose sides are living through whatever perspective they choose. Great post.
Well reasoned post.
BTW when I was young and hormone driven I would of and never did go to a girls home at night unless it was using the front door with a parent/adult’s permission. Always seemed unwise to me to sneak into a house at 2:30am.
All the armchair lawyers are sure to flock here with their opinions on how this case should be handled. As for myself, I would like to hear some more pertinent facts as they are thin at the moment.
You post is the most clear, concise statement so far. I agree 100%. All the chatter about laws regarding teen sex are ancillary. The issue was the dad thought an intruder was rushing him in a dark room. It was a reasonable decision, though the poor man will regret it the rest of his life.
The stories about citizens shooting violent criminals generally leave me happy, but this one is just a sad reflection of our times.
So where was the daughter? Why didn’t she tell her dad it was her boyfriend? ...wait, maybe she did.
“Not if he was invited by a resident of the house, which seems to be the case.”
This is a tragedy all around. The girl will feel guilty for the rest of her life. The guy’s parents and the rest of his family will always feel the loss. The father will also feel guilty for the rest of his life, and his relationship with his daughter will never be the same. There are no winners here.
This is a tragedy, an accident only a moron would find anything criminal.
The girl is as much to blame as the guy and the father will be haunted the rest of his life.
Very sad.
“It is the girls fault. Not the dad and not the boyfriend.”
Boyfriend charged armed father, knowing he was armed. That’s self-defense in my book.
I don’t think any dad, no matter how approachable they are, is going to allow his teenage daughter have a boy sleepover.
Well, actually, the guy will be hauntING, not hauntED, if you believe in ghosts.
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