Basically, Microsoft is saying:
"Say, nice little computer ya got there... be a shame if anything happened to it... how about you upgrade to Windows 10 now?"So now THIS MEANS NOTHING if you were so careless as to purchase a computer with a modern CPU.
Hopefully someone will work out a way to get the updates, without having to play too many stupid games or latch onto somebody's WSUS.
So Microsoft will quit pushing its spyware if I upgrade to the latest Intel chip? Sounds like I need to consider doing that.
>”Say, nice little computer ya got there... be a shame if anything happened to it... how about you upgrade to Windows 10 now?”
Ha. I’ll buy a RedHat copy of Linux long before I steal another copy of WinBlows.
OK, what date of Mfg. is considered a “modern” CPU?
NONE of computers and their parts are made in USA. Sorry, but you are CONTRIBUTING to the trade deficit if you buy laptops, computers, processors, heat sinks etc.
New Architecture/BIOS chips. They never said that it would work on ALL future intel platforms. Not saying it’s a good move, but just saying they still support Win7 on all systems that were out when it was mainstream.
I do too.
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And people wonder why I advocate for Linux...
Linux won’t care.
Now why would anyone have the newest CPUs and either Windows 7 or 8?
Those dirty MFrs don’t realize small businesses rely on stable and consistent computer performance. I’m running win 7 on new machines because the support for my CAD CAM CAE CFD software is rock solid. Win 10 on one machine cost me nearly 9000 bucks. I fn hate MS even though I’m stuck with them.
AND NO!!! Before the LInux fans chime in NO!!! It won’t work with WINE.
Good old microsoft. always thinking about their customers.
Windows 10 is great. Love it. Best OS I’ve ever used. And I’ve used and administered VMS, SunOS, AIX, and several flavors of Linux.
I actually think that the best Microsoft Windows was fully updated Vista 64. I used it for YEARS and updated hardware on the same system (which I keep clean!) for years, up to today’s modern hardware, and it ran perfectly and never crashed under various heavy multitasking loads.
However Microsoft started getting more and more sluggish on performing any updates, and finally with their looming “end of support” garbage, I decided to upgrade.
(I had known this was going to happen I would have done it sooner.) I had Vista 64 Ultimate, and if you want to upgrade “in place” they ONLY let you upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate, makes no sense you could not move to Win 7 Pro since it is cheaper, but no, Win 7 Ultimate was all that they allowed.
Try to find Win 7 Ultimate. Not many options. Moreover, they stopped all vendors from selling Windows 7 at ALL. Bogus.
So I had to buy Win 7 Ultimate from Amazon, and I bought another from E-Bay thinking I might need it. They were both SEALED ORIGINAL FULL (not “OEM”) packages — I am convinced.
Tried to upgrade in place? NO. Fail, fail, fail. I had to remove many drivers, much hardware plugged in and installed, etc. It would always roll back to Vista. There is a whole subculture of humans Microsoft created called the “62 percenters” where installation would fail at 62% done after it took hours and hours to get to that point. I am sure some committed suicide. Anyway, THIS TOOK DAYS of work while I was on vacation. I had to re-clone from my original disk multiple times and start over.
Finally I got it to go all the way to the end of the “in place upgrade,” WOW, and it looked like it is going to work, system up and running, but I have to “activate Windows.”
I enter the “key” that came with the package, and it says, “Microsoft has deactivated this key” or something like that! I try the second package key and it says the same thing. Just wow.
I call Microsoft after poking around forever on their web site which is designed to make you not call them, including having to text back and forth with a robot of theirs, and after hours on the phone deciphering accents reading scripts, they told me that the numbers were deactivated, and they were “pirated” apparently. However, I KNOW that these were brand new packages that had never been opened. The had holograms, they were spotless, no finger prints, not the slightest bit of damage to them, and if the numbers HAD been stolen and used, why would they be deactivated? People do reinstall full versions after all. They flat refused to do anything.
Make another clone disk. Now what? Well, I had also gotten a Windows 8.1 Pro brand new OS from Amazon. It would not let be upgrade “in place,” bummer, have to re-install hundreds of programs and get all their settings fixed properly, bad.
However I did install it fresh, and it worked, passed activation also. However, as I started to re-install everything, I started thinking about the hell I had gone through for days, and how I still was not done, so I just downloaded a copy of Windows 10 Pro and upgraded to that instead, and I am on that now. What a mess, thank goodness for Classic Shell. It is so “dumbed down” from Vista 64. (I already knew, I have a Win 8.1 laptop that after I came back from a long vacation had been infected by Win 10 without my permission and could not be rolled back!)
But I thought I would build a hot brand new computer and use that Win 8.1 on that.
And now you post this article telling us that they intentionally will not let 8.1, a rather new OS, work on new hardware? BOGUS. Another class action suit waiting to happen?
And for me, $450 spent on 3 brand new sealed hologramed Microsoft Windows system packages, 2 brand new ones never opened or used that they decided could no longer be sold, if no one used them by now they muct have been sold by someone not authorized to sell them even though they were ORIGINAL. And one that will not work on new hardware because they want to manipulate us! What ever happened to the idea of open hardware being so much better than Apple?
I have Macs also, and I hate working on them because they are so dumbed down and Apple’s crazy “form over function” mentality just makes everything difficult. I get cramps just trying to use them compared to Windows and I have continuously had and used Macs since Spring 1984. Used to be great, now their fixation on misguided esthetics and non-power users has made them incredibly bothersome.
Linux and other Unix systems, used to use them, driver support terrible, most of the software I use with large and long amounts of data will not run on it or will run badly.
So 2 months from now when I finally get this system Win 10 Pro system really rebuilt as good as my favorite Vista 63 Ult system, maybe I will have spent all the hours it takes to better understand how to lock this down. But as of now it feels leaky and invasive and dumbed down and it just posses me off.
So here is what I want: A very very smart and aggressive firewall system that eliminates the virus known as Win 10 from “phoning home” and tracks what it tries to do. It will need to be cooperative in the OS and in a hardware firewall I think. Maybe in a special network card too. That is because I would still rather keep using Windows. Or maybe I can trick them into thinking I am in Europe where they are constrained by Europe’s (possibly) superior privacy laws?
And the first time a forced update breaks something, well, up-date this!
Thanks for posting this story. I was just starting to shop for kaby lake hardware to do an update rebuild of my main pc. I have win 8.1 set up nicely to work like win 7. I do not use 10, even with the hollow promise of dx12, mainly because of their bs win update bundle policy. Now, I’ll save my cash to update other stuff.
People will just collect the hardware they need for backup. It gets cheaper every day.
Fuch microsoft. Fuch them until they are split in half.