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To: taxcontrol

If I contacted the Freedom Caucus, it would not be to thank them. They helped deliver a temporary appearance of vindication aka victory to the Democrats. They succeeded in throwing Trump off track and making his team look less capable. They highlighted the fact that with all three branches of government won by republicans, we apparently could not rid ourselves of Obamacare. This, in spite of voting over 60 times to repeal it, back when the GOP knew the vote was a moot point and empty gesture.
Kinda makes you wonder if the Freedom Caucus is in collusion with ‘unnamed allies’.


5 posted on 03/25/2017 12:07:06 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

It is Ryan and his Uniparty eunuchs that presented Ryancare who are in collusion with the Democrats to preserve Obamacare.
Those previous votes were all dog and pony shows, they never had any intention of repealing Obamacare.


7 posted on 03/25/2017 12:09:53 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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They succeeded in throwing Trump off track and making his team look less capable.

They are less capable.

21 posted on 03/25/2017 12:28:41 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: lee martell

passage of this thing would have made Trump look worse (which I believe is part of Ryan & McConnell’s intent).

It is Ryan & the other RINOs who are colluding with (known) allies (in this case, the insurance lobbyists).

Insurance companies are no longer private enterprises, thanks to decades of influence & control by govt). Anybody who thinks that government involvement leads to anything positive should examine the trajectory of insurance premiums over the years.

Who has more ties to George Soros, Freedom Caucus members or RINOs?


28 posted on 03/25/2017 12:36:02 PM PDT by MyDogAteMyBallot
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To: lee martell

It was Ryan’s poor bill that did that. If his goal was to repeal and replace Obamacare, a different bill would have been presented. This was a ‘slightly change’ government centered healthcare bill and needed to be killed. Now, come back with a real repeal and free-market replacement.


53 posted on 03/25/2017 1:17:23 PM PDT by ilgipper
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Hinderacker's take on what happened: DEMOCRATS’ CELEBRATION IS PREMATURE Pretty much everyone thinks the House’s failure to pass the GOP’s repeal-and-replace bill is a disaster for Republicans. The Democrats are giddy with glee, and Matt Drudge calls it a “catastrophe.” Perhaps they are right, but I doubt it. Minnesota’s own Amy Klobuchar writes on Facebook:

So now what? Are we just going to walk away, as the White House suggested? Or are we going to work together to bring healthcare costs down? There’s so much we can do – reduce prescription drug costs, help out people on the exchange, reform delivery systems, eliminate the medical device tax and more. We can’t walk away from the American people. Moving beyond healthcare isn’t an option.

Oh, yes, it is. If the Democrats have ideas on reducing prescription drug costs, helping people on the exchange, and so on, where have they been for the last seven years? And since when are Democrats interested in “working together”? They passed Obamacare with zero input from Republicans and zero Republican votes. When they had an opportunity this week to save Obamacare, not a single House Democrat was willing to vote for it.

Fine. Democrats are stuck with the Obamacare they passed. It won’t be reformed, and it will limp along for the time being. But the day will come, before long, when Obamacare’s collapse is so complete and so manifest that repeal will be revisited. In the meantime, I see no reason why Republicans should take the hit for the Democrats’ disastrous overreach.

Is that too optimistic a view of the situation? Maybe. But that is how it looks to me.

56 posted on 03/25/2017 1:53:14 PM PDT by Fungi (Five genera of fungi are responsible for 90% of all inhaled fungi. Breathing is not healthy.)
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