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For all of you ex-Snipes out there on FR

Posted on 04/28/2017 11:15:28 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

Thought you might appreciate this:

Snipe’s Lament Now each of us from time to time has gazed upon the sea and watched the mighty warships pulling out to keep this country free. And most of us have read a book or heard a lusty tale, about these men who sail these ships through lightning, wind and hail. But there's a place within each ship that legend's fail to teach. It's down below the water-line and it takes a living toll - - a hot metal living hell, that sailors call the "Hole." It houses engines run with steam that makes the shafts go round. A place of fire, noise, and heat that beats your spirits down. Where boilers like a hellish heart, with blood of angry steam, are molded gods without remorse, are nightmares in a dream. Whose threat from the fires roar, is like a living doubt, that at any moment with such scorn, might escape and crush you out. Where turbines scream like tortured souls, alone and lost in Hell, are ordered from above somewhere, they answer every bell. The men who keep the fires lit and make the engines run, are strangers to the light and rarely see the sun. They have no time for man or God, no tolerance for fear, their aspect pays no living thing a tribute of a tear. For there's not much that men can do that these men haven't done, beneath the decks, deep in the hole, to make the engines run. And every hour of every day they keep the watch in Hell, for if the fires ever fail their ship's a useless shell. When ships converge to have a war upon an angry sea, the men below just grimly smile at what their fate will be. They're locked below like men fore-doomed, who hear no battle cry, it's well assumed that if they're hit men below will die. For every day's a war down there when gauges all read red, twelve-hundred pounds of heated steam can kill you mighty dead. So if you ever write their songs or try to tell their tale, the very words would make you hear a fired furnace's wail. And people as a general rule don't hear of these men of steel, so little heard about this place that sailors call the "Hole." But I can sing about this place and try to make you see, the hardened life of the men down there, 'cause one of them is me. I've seen these sweat-soaked heroes fight in superheated air, to keep their ship alive and right, though no one knows they're there. And thus they'll fight for ages on till warships sail no more, amid the boiler's mighty heat and the turbine's hellish roar. So when you see a ship pull out to meet a war-like foe, remember faintly if you can, "The Men Who Sail Below." -Anonymous


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1 posted on 04/28/2017 11:15:29 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

Needs more pirate lingo.

2 posted on 04/28/2017 11:23:25 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Bull Snipe

The Snipe’s Lament

Author unknown

Now each of us from time to time, has gazed upon the sea

And watched the warships pulling out, to keep this country free.

And most of us have read a book, or heard a lusty tale,

About the men who sail these ships, through lightning, wind and hail.

But there’s a place within each ship, that legend fails to teach.

It’s down below the waterline, it takes a living toll-—

A hot metal living hell, that sailors call the “hole.”

It houses engines run by steam, that makes the shafts go round,

A place of fire and noise and heat, that beats your spirit down,

Are of molded gods without remorse, are nightmares in a dream.

Whose threat that from the fires roar, is like living doubt,

That any minute would with scorn, escape and crush you out.

Where turbines scream like tortured souls, alone and lost in hell,

As ordered from above somewhere, they answer every bell.

The men who keep the fires lit, and make the engines run,

Are strangers to the world of night, and rarely see the sun.

They have no time for man or God, no tolerance for fear,

Their aspect pays no living thing, the tribute of a tear.

For there’s not much that men can do, that these men haven’t done,

Beneath the decks deep in the hole, to make the engines run.

And every hour of every day, they keep the watch in hell,

For if the fires ever fail, their ship’s a useless shell.

When ships converge to have a war, upon the sea,

The men below just grimly smile, at what their fate might be.

They’re locked in below like men for doomed, who hear no battle cry,

It’s well assumed that if they’re hit, the men below will die.

For every day’s a war down there, when the gauges all read red,

Twelve hundred pounds of heated steam, can kill you mighty dead.

So if you ever write their sons, or try to tell their tale,

The very words would make you hear, a fired furnace’s wail.

And people as a general rule, don’t hear of men of steel,

So little’s heard about the place, that sailors call the “hole.”

But I can sing about this place, and try to make you see,

The hardened life of men down there, cause one of them is me.

I’ve seen these sweat soaked heroes fight, in superheated air,

To keep their ship alive and right through no one knows they’re there.

And thus they’ll fight for ages on, till warships sail no more

Amid the boiler’s mighty heat, and the turbines hellish roar.

So when you see a ship pull out, to meet a warlike foe,

Remember faintly if you can, “THE MEN WHO SAIL BELOW.”


3 posted on 04/28/2017 11:24:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Red Badger

1200# plants are recent. So this poem is more modern than it appears. Best snipe book. Sand Pebbles.


4 posted on 04/28/2017 11:27:12 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Bull Snipe

I have always had a healthy respect for you and your mates who work in the engineering spaces below decks.

I worked on the flight deck, and often thought how terrible it would be to be under an actual attack, and not be able to see what is coming, and only know from an actual hit.

Never mind the smoke, fire, and rising water.

Read an excellent book called “Neptune’s Inferno” recently about the naval battles around Guadalcanal in 1942, and the carnage was sobering, to put it lightly.

No, I tip my hat to all of you.


5 posted on 04/28/2017 11:28:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Oldexpat

Define ‘recent’.....................


6 posted on 04/28/2017 11:28:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Bull Snipe

As a former destroyer man, I say its about time the snipes get some recognition, though I wasn’t one myself.

I think a lot about the men below when ships were torpedoed in WW2. If they weren’t killed outright, what it must have been for them trapped in their boiler and turbine rooms. It was a long trip to the bottom. We hear a lot about how horrific it was for the men in B-17’s, shot up by enemy fighters, who had their long descent to the earth, trapped by centrifugal force in their bombers, but what about the snipes in the Navy?


7 posted on 04/28/2017 11:33:54 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Snickering Hound; Bull Snipe

I am forever grateful that they were only taking pilots the day I first interviewed for OCS, and that the Electronics Mate quota was all filled by the time my IBM card got to the sorter. Going to Electrician’s Mate A School and spending time on USS Columbus (CG-12) was the best preparation for, eventually, becoming an officer that I could have gotten.


8 posted on 04/28/2017 11:34:32 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Bull Snipe
One of the best snipe movies of all time is Das Boot.

The scene where the chief engineer is smiling at the purring of the engines is amazing.

9 posted on 04/28/2017 11:36:21 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: rlmorel

Same respect here. Above the weather decks on a destroyer. Was in the hole only on an exercise to patch power.


10 posted on 04/28/2017 11:39:00 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Snickering Hound

http://www.tampabay.com/features/popculture/arrrrrrr-you-ready-for-talk-like-a-pirate-day/817148

A Florida take on the issue from above link:

“Keel-haul. As in, “Let’s drop off after work to keel-haul a few PBR tall boys.” Or, “Thanks a lot, Lehman Brothers, my portfolio has really taken a good keel-hauling this week.”

Bilge rat. An insult of the highest magnitude: “The Rays will keel-haul those bilge rats from Boston in the playoffs!”

Lubber. A bilge rat who refuses to participate in International Talk Like a Pirate Day: “Them lubbers at the counter told me to hit the gangplank when I brought me parrot into Dunkin’ Donuts.”

Ahoy!, Avast! and Aye! Use these words as often as you can, no matter the context.

Arrrrrrr! No explanation necessary. Arrrrrrr!

Lookin’ for a pub where ye can hoist a few flagons of grog with your fellow buccaneers and wenches? Point your sails to the Friendly Fisherman at John’s Pass in Madeira Beach, where a host of scurvy scalliwags will be enjoyin’ rum specials, hand-rolled cigars and pirate songs ...


11 posted on 04/28/2017 11:44:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out... - - Horowitz)
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To: Bull Snipe

MM2 Larsen, USS Ajax AR6, Aft Engine Room, ‘74-’78


12 posted on 04/28/2017 11:49:06 AM PDT by Randy Larsen (Trump IS MY president and I'm damn proud of him!)
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To: Bull Snipe

Fortunately for me as an electrical snipe I spent my GQ time in the forward emergency diesel generator room. Never once saw the coastline of a port we entered. Ocean everywhere.... Bam, 2 hours later Hong Kong Harbor.


13 posted on 04/28/2017 12:05:04 PM PDT by Seruzawa (I kill you filthy Vorga.)
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To: Seruzawa

Been there and done that. Sea and Anchor detail was burnerman in Bravo 3.


14 posted on 04/28/2017 12:08:27 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

That’s very good. Thanks for posting. Stirred a memory:

I was in V-2 Cats on a CVA. We had one E-2 Snipe in our division. He’d been on active duty for 9 years and most were down below. He’d made FN3 twice and kept getting into trouble, so was busted back to E-2. ...He loved working on the flight deck in the open air!


15 posted on 04/28/2017 12:09:46 PM PDT by octex
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16 posted on 04/28/2017 12:10:13 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: yuleeyahoo

Great stuff, thanks


17 posted on 04/28/2017 12:11:36 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Great movie.

I loved the party scene before they went to sea.

Sailors have much commonality, no matter where they hail from.


18 posted on 04/28/2017 12:15:40 PM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Snickering Hound

This reply is dedicated to my late father-in-law, Bertram Snouffer. A dedicated sailor on USS Stafford DE-411 during WWII. My wife and I went to many Stafford reunions with him and I learned well what a snipe was. We stopped the reunions a few years ago when children and grand-children substantially outnumbered the sailors. In later years the reunion was the high point of the year for Bert and many of his shipmates. We heard the stories year after year and never failed to enjoy and comment on them each year. Bert carried his shellback card until his passing and was one of his most cherished positions. Not that it had any value to anyone but him. Now that they are all gone the only thing left are memories of these great heroes of WWII. Thank you for sharing this poem it means a great deal.


19 posted on 04/28/2017 12:26:45 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Oldexpat

I believe most US Navy ships built after WWII (with the exception of the Dealy class of escorts, replaced by the Knox class frigates) had 1200 psi steam.

The last ships using 600 psi were phased out in the early to mid Seventies.

The USS Kitty Hawk was the last carrier operating with the traditional boiler. All nuclear now.

(Any of you Snipes who know this better than me, correct me. I am “just an Airdale”!)


20 posted on 04/28/2017 12:26:59 PM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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