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DNA Test for Finding Ancestors Raises Privacy Concerns
NBC Bay Area ^ | 4/30 | Christine Roher, Joe Rojas, and Chris Chmura

Posted on 04/30/2017 1:48:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Concerns it brings up:
* Surprise relatives showing up when you just wanted information for yourself. One kid already found relatives of his sperm donor this way.
* You test positive for a genetic disorder. It is in the genetic test info they find. Your relatives may not want to know the risk, but through the site, it may become public information.
* You could unwittingly become part of a medical study without your consent, and that could affect your descendant.
Example: Your family loses someone to a disorder. The genetic information to test for risk factors to find that exact trait is your decision in a medical study. (I participated in one).
I made that choice to be tested and give detailed medical information, with the condition for privacy. I did NOT authorize for their to be a risk to my children, siblings and other relatives to have that information associated with them because it could be used against them whether by insurers or if eugenics comes roaring back.
* As new genetic defects are identified, the DNA tests could be used to locate people to notify of traits they carry but don’t necessarily impact quality of life now or even in the future.
Example: there is a genetic locus associated with an increased risk of biopolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia and high levels of creativity. If massive database screening identifies those with that locus, do you end up penalizing people, like children, who carry the trait but may not become mentally ill?


21 posted on 04/30/2017 2:21:22 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

How accurate is this test?


22 posted on 04/30/2017 2:24:47 PM PDT by Midnitethecat
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To: tbw2

How accurate is this test?


23 posted on 04/30/2017 2:24:47 PM PDT by Midnitethecat
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To: nickcarraway

I’d always heard the ancestory sites were the Mormon’s gathering data to posthumously baptize people when they pass.


24 posted on 04/30/2017 2:27:34 PM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: ifinnegan

Yes. What’s the problem? I aim to do the DNA thing soon. I’m just curious and it fascinates me. And I’m not dumber than words. It’s $199 for the complete package and the contract spells everything out. It’s a personal choice; if the price and the terms of the contract are unacceptable, just don’t do it.


25 posted on 04/30/2017 2:28:34 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Midnitethecat
I wonder too. My sis did this and got my father to do it also thinking there must have been some Elizabeth Warren in our background due to the high cheekbones of our elders. Nope...those traits came from Southern Spain many generations back, she was told.

The only medical issue it noted was a slight chance of hypersensitivity to Warfarin.

26 posted on 04/30/2017 2:34:34 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Dr. Sivana

your credit card?


27 posted on 04/30/2017 2:38:05 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: bunkerhill7
I remember the first time I gave my DNA away.
Her name was Sophie.
It cost me a beer.

I'm surprised you remember the slut's name.

28 posted on 04/30/2017 2:44:52 PM PDT by ytrebil
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To: tbw2

I know someone who found a first cousin this way. She wasn’t looking for a cousin but she signed up for Ancestry and immediately got an email from a woman who was looking for her father. Her uncles were not very happy.


29 posted on 04/30/2017 2:55:48 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: nickcarraway
Once they have your DNA, they can sequence your DNA, and once they can sequence your DNA, they can duplicate your DNA.

Without too much hassle, such material could then—theoretically—be introduced into a crime scene.

Ultimately, when you give a corporation (or the State) your DNA, you're giving them the power to frame you...

30 posted on 04/30/2017 2:59:31 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Rastus; yarddog

Where the heck do you think my new liver is coming from?


31 posted on 04/30/2017 3:13:07 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: nickcarraway

I once got an ancestry.com DNA kit from my brother. I sent in My DNA, but I used a fake alias.
Even if these companies where to resell this information to insurance companies, that would be no way the insurance company could verify who the DNA belongs to.


32 posted on 04/30/2017 3:15:31 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democratt)
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To: yarddog

Why would a doctor do this?

Did he/she/it tell you why?

“The last time I was in my Dr. had his assistant take a DNA swab from inside my cheeks.”


33 posted on 04/30/2017 3:31:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ("Fake news is just another name for slander or libel, and should be prosecuted."!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

My Dr. did not tell me why.

I do trust him. His Father was my Dr. before his Son joined his practice. The Father is very conservative/Christian and the Son seems to be the same.

BTW, he is a Harvard grad.


34 posted on 04/30/2017 3:38:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: nickcarraway

As folks discovered in the first Radio Shack bankruptcy, the company’s pledges to its customers are worthless when there is a valuable asset that can be sold.


35 posted on 04/30/2017 3:40:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: sargon
Not unheard of.

Cops are asking Ancestry.com and 23andMe for their customers' DNA

36 posted on 04/30/2017 3:51:20 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: sargon

“Ultimately, when you give a corporation (or the State) your DNA, you’re giving them the power to frame you...”

It’s another one of those items that will be stored in some massive data base along with a person’s entire online history, phone calls, electronic money transfers, and gps history. “Well Mr Jones, we see you used your credit card a block away from the murder scene, your car’s gps and your phone place you there within the time frame, and we found some hair that matches your DNA at the scene. We also have records of your emails in which you expressed strong feelings about....”


37 posted on 04/30/2017 3:52:51 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: nickcarraway

I know dam well there are buyers on the market that are keenly interested in DNA types, to building a database that can be sold or to be used by research groups.

Reminds me of a techno thriller novel where everyone on earth or most of them were eventually catalogued and a virus was sent out that made sterile anyone that wasn’t blye eyed and blonde.

Or...imagine this, you have a certain ancestry thats wanted say as an organ donor to some billionaire, they find you and next thing you know you are getting harvested. Or eliminated because you might be a threat to any certain group.


38 posted on 04/30/2017 3:55:58 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best!)
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To: Delta 21

Actually, you seem to be the only one who understands the issue at hand. Whos name is associated with a sample is really quite irrelevant. “Privacy” and higher insurance payments are pretty low on the scale of whats going on here. Its about ownership and patenting of DNA.

Thats also whats behind the debate between fetal stem cell research vs adult stem cell research.

If you own your DNA, then you could in the near future order yourself a new liver and get one for, lets say, $50,000. If I own the patent on your DNA, your new liver costs $500,000. If something about your DNA turns out to be a valuable therapy in the near future you could give the rights to replicate it free and cure the world of some affliction, if I own your DNA, you will get nothing and I will cure the world...at $50,000 each.


39 posted on 04/30/2017 4:11:26 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: ytrebil

We shared a beer. It was a kiss. [saliva]


40 posted on 04/30/2017 4:20:08 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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