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DNA Test for Finding Ancestors Raises Privacy Concerns
NBC Bay Area ^ | 4/30 | Christine Roher, Joe Rojas, and Chris Chmura

Posted on 04/30/2017 1:48:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: ifinnegan

We shared a beer. It was a kiss. [saliva]


41 posted on 04/30/2017 4:20:47 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: gnarledmaw

“If something about your DNA turns out to be a valuable therapy in the near future you could give the rights to replicate it free and cure the world of some affliction, if I own your DNA, you will get nothing and I will cure the world...at $50,000 each.”

Then go ahead and do it with your DNA. Don’t give it to anyone. You use it and save the world.

Your scenario is actually quite Marxist and communist.

The parents, something the founders put in the constitution to protect intellectual property derived from hard work, are not to the DNA, but to methods and uses.

And the person getting a DNA analysis does not give their DNA. They give some spit. DNA is only one component of a huge huge amount of chemicals.

Patent your spit.


42 posted on 04/30/2017 4:22:59 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Not only do you have reading comprehension issues, your a moron. Patent that.


43 posted on 04/30/2017 4:28:36 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: nickcarraway

A wise human once said something along the line of “..fools and their money are easily parted..”


44 posted on 04/30/2017 4:29:21 PM PDT by VietVet876
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To: ifinnegan

Keep guessing...it’s the best you prolly have.


45 posted on 04/30/2017 4:34:41 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: RepRivFarm

I had heard, but don’t know the truth of it, that police have access to all the Ancestry DNA. So if you are a criminal, it may be foolish to give over your DNA voluntarily. P.S. I am not a criminal...just thrifty. If the price comes down substantially I might consider it. I notice there was a price drop, for 2 days only recently, to $75. I’m waiting for a $50 offer.


46 posted on 04/30/2017 5:03:59 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Midnitethecat

How accurate is the test? Send in the same sample under several different identities. Send in samples that differ in temperature, edmotional mood, etc.

What will the consistency rate be? That is just one of many measures of accuracy.

Then send in samples from kids who have both the same mom and dad, and kids who share 1 parent but not the other. See if the results make any sense at all.

How can a kid have a greater percentage of an ancestor than the sum of both parents for that ancestor?

Then compare the mail in saliva test accuracy with the in person blood test by a professional.

But accuracy of DNA is no different than accuracy of climate change or accuracy of many other uncertainties.


47 posted on 04/30/2017 5:14:12 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: nickcarraway

Every time I see the TV ad for this, I think I should get the kit, and swab a dog’s mouth, send it in, and see what response I get.


48 posted on 04/30/2017 6:10:12 PM PDT by G-Bear ("Wish I could find a good book.....to live in...." Melanie Safka)
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To: PIF
your credit card?

Have someone else submit the test as on behalf of a relative (that's how it would be done for minors). You can also get gift credit cards.
49 posted on 04/30/2017 6:15:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

Three excellent points!

1. “I know damn well there are buyers on the market that are keenly interested in DNA types, to building a database that can be sold or to be used by research groups.”:

Imagine a positive DNA that could be isolated, cloned and marketed for health reasons to prevent or slow down a disease or aging proces. Like resistance to diabetes, allergies, certain heart problems, asthma and chronic diseases like arthritis. If those genes can be isolated, found in an individual and cloned. In a dark side world, The finder of the “donors” could make a hugh finder’s fee and the company buying the DNA could make billions. Nothing is wrong with that if the donor got paid.

2. Reminds me of a techno thriller novel where everyone on earth or most of them were eventually catalogued and a virus was sent out that made sterile anyone that wasn’t blue eyed and blonde.:

An evil billionaire globalist, like $oreA$$, pays infectious disease MDs and pathologists to innoculate “donors” with a weakened pathogen to build up immunity to a killer microbe. Then, the evil globalist has his dna/cloning experts from the blood of the experimented ones, develop an immunization process to make his family, friends and trusted private army immune to the disease.

Then, they put suicide or unknown virus carriers on planes, trains, buses, in terminals,schools, cafeterias and other areas with a lot of people coming and going to start and spread the pandemic. A pandemic that kills everyone not immunized to prevent the pathogen from killing them. Isis, the Saudis, BLMers and the NK’s would pay billions for these weapons.

3. Or...imagine this, you, your children or grandkids, have a certain ancestry DNA trait that is wanted as an organ “donor” to some billionaire like $oreASS. Thanks to the lists you allowed/ they find you or your family memcers. The next thing you know you or your family members are getting harvested. After, they “harvest” your liver, on a dark side ebay, they put your heart, lungs, ovaries and whatever is in demand and left over out for a bid.


50 posted on 04/30/2017 6:29:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ("Fake news is just another name for slander or libel, and should be prosecuted."!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

Due to the concerns mentioned in this article, my DNA, mtDNA, was done and is handled by a company in Canada called “Genebase” and I have been nothing except pleased by what they have provided and how they have done it. I do have to say that surprises did occur like finding out my mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) Subclade H24a1, indicates my female line is Ashkenazi Jew. Furthermore, when one of my brother’s had the paternal line done, our line that way is Jewish also, J1c3(p58+). My other brother was not happy. On the other hand, I am delighted to know it.


51 posted on 04/30/2017 6:36:24 PM PDT by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: Grampa Dave; Dr. Sivana; G-Bear; spintreebob; kiltie65; glasseye; VietVet876; gnarledmaw; ...

A bill proposed by Republicans that will allow employers to require genetic testing has passed a key committee vote. (This was already in Obamacare but they are voting to expand it. Don’t be fooled that this wasn’t already in Obamacare).
The bill will allow employers to charge their employees for their healthcare premiums if they refuse to be genetically tested. Employees who take the test and show to have higher health risks would have a higher co-pay for their healthcare insurance.

Employees who decline genetic testing could face penalties under proposed bill

GOP Bill Would Let Your Employer Demand to See Your Genetic Information [H.R. 1313]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3534288/posts

House GOP would let employers demand workers’ genetic test results
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533477/posts

It Might Soon Be Legal for Employers to Force You Into a Genetic Test
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533562/posts

New bill would let companies force workers to get genetic tests, share results
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533526/posts


52 posted on 04/30/2017 6:45:45 PM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: Bodega

I noticed several years ago that many of the world’s great physicists are Hungarian Jews from Budapest.

I would love to see a genetic test of them.

When Dr. Teller spoke and took questions at my school, one of the questions was “who did he thing was the greatest physicist of all time”.

He replied that he considered a fellow Hungarian as the best. I forget what the name was.


53 posted on 04/30/2017 6:53:18 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

....”What stops you from using an alias to purchase the test?”....

Well in a hospital setting someone will know your using an alias. They will often say you can have the tests done using an alias and nobody would know....but they will.


54 posted on 04/30/2017 7:06:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: gnarledmaw

Nothing in anyone’s DNA has any value unless someone does a lot of work and spends a lot of money to find it out.

And then does a lot more work and spends a lot more money figure out how to utilize the discovery in a way that can help people.

And then does a lot more work and spends a lot more money to make it commercially viable as something many people can use on a real life practical level.

And that’s just the bare skeleton.


55 posted on 04/30/2017 7:09:39 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: MNDude

“...but I used a fake alias.”

Huh?


56 posted on 04/30/2017 7:16:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Dan Rather, a 60 Minutes Investigative Reporter for CBS, invented "Fake News"-fake but accurate.)
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To: virgil
How much does Ancestry own of your children’s DNA?

None, I would imagine, as your children only have 50% of your DNA. Their genetic code is unique to them.

57 posted on 04/30/2017 7:55:18 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: nickcarraway; All

I wouldn’t trust Ancestry DNA, as Ancestry tends to sell info.

Check out familytreedna.com instead.

I sent my cheek swab there for the basic test about 10 years ago. After seeing the results, I opted for a more advanced test and it revealed even more information that led me to distant cousins and ancestors I wasn’t aware of previously.


58 posted on 04/30/2017 9:36:16 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Try www.familytreedna.com


59 posted on 04/30/2017 9:47:47 PM PDT by octex
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To: RetiredTexasVet

You don’t have to use your real name when you send in your samples.


60 posted on 05/01/2017 1:02:55 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democratt)
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