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To: Enlightened1
Two comments:
1)The "west's" problems go back much further than the Frankfurt School. In good ol' America you had children and grandchildren of the Puritan Fathers advocating atheism and "free love" back in the early nineteenth century. In fact, the Old Establishment has been radical for so long it's a legitimate question as to whether it was "penetrated" by any outside group--or merely adopted radicalism for its own purposes when its original conservatism no longer served it (ie, where William McKinley failed, Barack Obama "succeeded").
2)Would someone kindly explain to me why "European racial groups" are seen as some sort of essential to morality? G-d was around a long time before there was a European in existence and will still be here if not a single European ethnic group is left. Where does the idea that Europeans are some sort of "chosen people" come from? Is it actually in chrstian theology? I've never seen it there, but most traditionally chrstian ethnic groups consider themselves the singular "chosen people" (the Armenians being the most extreme example). I read about only one Chosen People in the Bible, and anybody who says that they've been replaced by someone else is by definition a theological liberal.

Come to think about it though . . . if European chrstians really do believe they're a specially chosen and elect people, and those chrstians decided that regular chrstianity wasn't working any more and decided to practice an "inverted" chrstianity, Europeans would go from being the specially chosen chrstian people to exactly what the Left thinks of them today. And if this is what's happened, it fits in with the shedding of Puritanism by the now radical American Establishment.

9 posted on 06/25/2017 8:04:28 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

1) Are you talking about the roaring 1920s? Notice it was soon after the creation of the Federal Reserve. That’s the outside group most people talk about. I understand Socialism and communism was big here during the depression and before World War II. Hence, why we got FDR and the New Deal.

2) That’s just Globalist propaganda to get people in Europe to allow Migrants from the Middle East and Africa to come into Europe. Funny to read Europeans lecturing the world about morality given the fact of their history.

The only people I have ever heard being called the “Chosen People” were the Hebrews that came out of Egypt in the Bible. Never in my life have I heard or a seen a single Christian say we are the “Chosen People” or we are replacing the chosen people. The only thing that comes close to this is the following quote,

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 14:6

Europeans are not as Christian as they use to be 50 or more years ago. The only religion growing in Europe is Islam.


14 posted on 06/25/2017 8:32:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Zionist Conspirator

2)Would someone kindly explain to me why “European racial groups” are seen as some sort of essential to morality? G-d was around a long time before there was a European in existence and will still be here if not a single European ethnic group is left. Where does the idea that Europeans are some sort of “chosen people” come from? Is it actually in chrstian theology?
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Assuming the question is not rhetorical — I’ll take a stab at answering it.

In the decades after the death of Christ and before the destruction of the second temple, Christianity was mostly a jewish sect.

In the centuries after the destruction of the second temple and the expulsion of Jews from Israel— the primary center of Judaism shifted to Bagdad and the center of Christianity shifted to Rome. Simultaneously, Jews and Christians sought to inoculate themselves from the influences of the other. For Jews this meant that certain books of the bible were taken out including the book of enoch and the book of Jubilee. (Both books remain in the Ethiopian torah.) Why? Because these books had too many angels and demons in them. God himself was a bit too plural and the old rabbis wanted to emphasize Deuteronomy 6:4 the Shema: “Hear oh Israel the lord our God, the Lord is one.”

Meanwhile in Rome St Augustine around 400 AD articulated what came to be known as the replacement theory. That because the Jews had rejected Christ — they had lost their claim to be the chose people. That Christians —because they had accepted Jesus as their Lord and savior—had become God’s chosen people.This was the over riding belief in Christianity in the west until the 19th century and then only in some of the evangelical denominations in the USA. The new doctrine became known as dispensationalism. That is God is not replacing Jews with Christians as the Chosen People —but rather that God has a different dispensation for the Jews than he does for Christians. That is the two are not mutually exclusive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DispensationalismThis view has become dominant in the USA since the formation of state of Israel. (You’ll want to read more about the 19th century American dispensationalists. They were quite prophetic about Israel. They also were quite opposed to the liberals of their day.


21 posted on 06/25/2017 2:41:45 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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