Posted on 06/30/2017 10:22:35 AM PDT by Morgana
FULL TITLE: 'We need to instill fear of overdosing': Ohio city councilman proposes BANNING opioid addicts from getting Narcan after their second overdose
Fed up with the social and fiscal toll of opiod addictions, a city councilman in Ohio has proposed cutting off overdose victims from receiving live-saving Narcan after their second overdose.
Councilman Dan Picard made the half-serious proposal at a June 20 meeting of the Middletown, Ohio city council, after hearing the city was set to spend ten times its annual budget on Narcan.
The city of roughly 49,000 is on pace to spend $100,000 on the life-saving drug, also known under the generic name naloxone, after only budgeting $10,000 for the year.
'I want to send the message to the world that you don't want to come to Middletown and overdose because you might not get a response - you might not get someone to show up with Narcan,' Picard said at the meeting, which was recorded on video.
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Ohio Narcan ping.
[[Ohio city councilman proposes BANNING opioid addicts from getting Narcan after their second overdose]]
Hippocratic oath doesn’t apply I guess since he’s not a doctor- His philosophy seems to be ‘let em die- who the hell cares’
Using my tax dollars to support those whose behavior caused them problems does not sit well with me.
Councilman Dan Picard’s idea has a lot of merit, IMHO!
Well, it is a little more complicated than that. Living close to Middletown, our whole area is saturated with heroin overdoses right now. I disagree with what he wants to do, but I can understand the frustration.
No, we shouldn’t hold back Narcan doses, but what happens when a police officer or child touches (just a touch is needed) carfentanil and goes into shock and there is no Narcan available? That is the point to which we are getting here.
Some heroin users ride that edge of OD to get maximum effect with someone with a cell phone these days to call for the shot if they do OD.
By the way, the price of heroin is down to about five bucks a hit. Cheap way to self-medicate. Cheap way to die.
This touches home to me, as I just lost my brother (47) to a painkiller accidental overdose this past Sunday morning.
Our mother found him, she screamed for me, I ran in, checked him, called 911, and performed CPR for several minutes until the EMTs arrived, but it was too late.
The medical examiner and two narcotics detectives told me they suspect he took a batch of street painkillers that looked like the real thing but cut with a cheaper and far more potent ingredient. It was just too much.
We’re waiting on the final autopsy (cause of death on the provisional death certificate lists “Pending further study”), but they have seen this a lot lately.
The narcotics detectives told us that if they catch the dealer, they will work with the DA to shoot for a murder conviction. Very long shot and odds are against catching him, but it’s comforting to know that some people in law enforcement taking this very seriously.
My brother went to detox and rehab in 2015, but it didn’t take. We tried everything but he was exceedingly secretive and hostile if we pressed the issue. He’s had contempt for me for a long time, so almost anything I said was greeted with hostility. There was no reaching him.
I don’t know what the answer is, but at the point where he OD’ed, legally forced treatment was probably the only thing that could have reached him. In the end, he’s an adult and can’t be policed 24/7, but anything short of forcing treatment on him wasn’t going to work.
Terrible week, especially for our 83-year-old mother.
Privatize the paramedic service. Problem solved.
A mental illness is a mental illness. They are now a danger to themselves and others. Besides it would create jobs, lots of jobs that would benefit a community.
How about a free trip to Duarte’s Philippines?
Three strikes
and
Your really out.
After all, if a liver transplatee burns through the "new" liver through chosen "abuse", do they automatically get put back on the list for yet another one?
Granted, not exactly the same, but principle is there.
Let people donate to a Narcan fund, if they want.
Better yet, add a surcharge onto fines for drug offenses to fund the weaker-willed's treatment fund.
[[By the way, the price of heroin is down to about five bucks a hit.]]
The addict generally needs several hits a day don’t they?
I’m not sure what a solution would look like- but we can’t turn our backs on people just because they are too stupid to want to live- I don’t think forced therapy will work because someone isn’t going to dry out without wanting to- forced rehab just prolongs the inevitable- relapse as soon as they walk out of the rehab centers- prison is about the only answer- unfortunately
Oh my how awful for you, for him and your family.
I don’t know the answer either. Truly I don’t. I work in a large hospital and we are seeing it daily. A lot of these people are not street junkies, they’re regular working people with pain who’ve been led to believe prescribed drugs can’t harm them. The ignorance is astonishing. Then human nature kicks in...”it can’t happen to me”...and the spiral has begun.
My sincere sympathy for you, may you find comfort in God’s grace...
They already do that. In the Recovery community, we call it "getting a nudge from the judge".
This all began back near 2000 in CA.
We started hearing stories of hard working people becoming pain killer addicts.
A good friend of mine destroyed her promising future by using pain killers.
Damn it. I am so sorry for you and your mother. That is terrible.
This is an epidemic. It is more than just a moral failing. It is scary as hell. I know people on FR think that this is only something that happens to degenerates but they are sheltered people.
I am from an upscale community in Ohio and we have had dozens of kids and adults OD over the past several years.
I hope you and your mom can find some peace.
The only answer was with him, and it also died with him.
The only way for him to have stopped is for him to want to stop badly enough to endure the pain of stopping and then never, ever going back.
That’s the only answer to any of it.
The addict is his own worst enemy, and in order to win, he has no choice but to be victorious over himself, or die.
Many do not win this fight.
I’m sorry to hear of this loss.
I wouldn’t even give them a first dose. Whenever an addict dies, the crime rate goes down just a little.
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