Posted on 08/14/2017 8:12:02 PM PDT by TigerClaws
1. On the expansion of slavery:
Lincoln said:
There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races ... A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas ...
2. On shipping blacks back to Africa:
Lincoln said:
In the language of Mr. Jefferson, uttered many years ago, "It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degrees, as that the evil will wear off insensibly; and in their places be, pari passu [on an equal basis], filled up by free white laborers."
3. On outlawing slavery in the south (before the rebellion).
Lincoln said:
I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
4. On equality:
Lincoln said:
I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.
5. On inter-racial marriage:
Lincoln said:
Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.
https://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/abraham-lincoln-racist/
But, you say, Lincoln freed the slaves! But that's only after this attempt to avoid the Civil War failed:
Two days before his first inauguration in March 4, 1961, Lincoln and the Republicans passed a proposed 13th Amendment, which enshrined slavery by prohibiting Congress from abolishing or interfering with state-allowed slavery. (Today it is known as the Corwin Amendment.}
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/abraham-lincoln-and-the-two-13th-amendments
So we should burn our five dollar bills? Tear down the Lincoln Memorial?
Where does the destruction of our history end?
I knew there was a reason why I always liked Lincoln
Lincoln presided as 500,000 Americans died waring against themselves... FAIL.
Did they really expect an 1850’s era politician to talk like Bernie Sanders?
There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people, to the idea of an indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races; and Judge Douglas evidently is basing his chief hope, upon the chances of being able to appropriate the benefit of this disgust to himself. If he can, by much drumming and repeating, fasten the odium of that idea upon his adversaries, he thinks he can struggle through the storm. He therefore clings to this hope, as a drowning man to the last plank. He makes an occasion for lugging it in from the opposition to the Dred Scott decision. He finds the Republicans insisting that the Declaration of Independence includes ALL men, black as well as white; and forth-with he boldly denies that it includes negroes at all, and proceeds to argue gravely that all who contend it does, do so only because they want to vote, and eat, and sleep, and marry with negroes! He will have it that they cannot be consistent else. Now I protest against that counterfeit logic which concludes that, because I do not want a black woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. I need not have her for either; I can just leave her alone. In some respects she certainly is not my equal; but in her natural right to eat the bread she earns with her own hands without asking leave of any one else, she is my equal, and the equal of all others. …It is the province of the liberal to take quotes out of context.
— Springfield IL speech, 06/26/1857
#### that closet faggot.
300 bucks and no war for you.
Broke starving Mick and you were cannon fodder right off the boat.
That ####sucker. Likely literally.
Do you have a date on those quotes? My understanding is that Lincoln’s views on race underwent a huge transformation after his interactions with Frederick Douglass.
“Lincoln presided as 500,000 Americans died waring against themselves... FAIL.”
You’re low by about 400%. A minimum of 750,000 combatants dead (mostly from non-combat causes), a quarter of a million civilians dead from collateral damage and war-caused deprivations, and one million of the four million newly-freed slaves simply disappeared before the 1870 census, presumed dead from deprivation and/or misadventure (”dying for freedom”).
Lincoln’s failure to have a plan for what to do with the four million refugees who were the foreseeable consequence of his war led to a fourth of them dying over the next five years.
All told, the blood of two million souls on his hands, give or take a few thousand.
And yet he was only a tiny fraction a racist compared to the southern slavers.
As bad as Lincoln was, his death was a terrible tragedy for America. He was of a mind to heal the wounds. His death brought about the horrors of Reconstruction, its policies of retribution and revenge left scars that lasted well into the 20th century (and beyond).
Quite frankly, the Antifa, and BLM are a restoration of that pathology that was Reconstruction. As William Faulkner wrote, "The past is never dead. It's not even past."
Lincoln was, indeed, a white supremacist. In his 1858 debate with Sen. Steven Douglas, Lincoln maintained, “And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
The latest official estimate is 750,000 casualties.
More evidence Lincoln was a racist:
Tear up the money. Tear down the Memorial. Let’s just ALL historical figures by today’s 21st Century standards.
Martin Luther King, Jr. called for a color blind society that fails to recognize the suffering of blacks and justify Affirmative Action. Tear down his statue.
Jefferson owned slaves. Take him off the money and blow up his Memorial in D.C.
The list will never end.
On this board I warned folks about the Confederate statues. It won’t stop there. It’ll keep going because being offended is what the Left is all about. Create offense, be angry, tear down history, remake society.
Bill Clinton was against gay marriage. Change that airport name after him.
FDR was against cross dressers in the military. Take him off the dime. Homophobic and transphobic. He also allowed the military to be segregated during WW2. Racist.
...bump... From one who would have fought for the Confederacy.
Reagan was a Demoncrat for some time before he became a Republican.
I'm not sure why you are posting these incendiary quotes, Tigersclaw. If posted in irony or sarcastically, it went over my head.
"...On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war.
All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation.
Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came.
One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it.
These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest.
All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war.
To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.
Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained.
Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease.
Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding.
Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other.
It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged.
The prayers of both could not be answered.
That of neither has been answered fully.
The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh."
If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him?
Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.
Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether..."
Lincoln, Worst President Ever. 600,000 dead young Men, Millions crippled or injured for life, and for what, a centralized Federal Government. Booth was right. Tyrant.
“...Two days before his first inauguration in March 4, 1961, Lincoln and the Republicans passed a proposed 13th Amendment, which enshrined slavery by prohibiting Congress from abolishing or interfering with state-allowed slavery. (Today it is known as the Corwin Amendment.} ...”
The Corwin Amendment, BTW, is still the law of the land. No one has ever bothered to repeal it, and it has no “sunset” clause, so it remains in effect. Which means that if the required number of states were to ratify it TOMORROW, slavery once again would be the law of the land, only this time with a specific constitutional protection.
It also bears mention (because it’s one of the many inconsistencies in the “It was about slavery” argument) that the Corwin Amendment was sent to the states for ratification BEFORE the 12 April action at Fort Sumter (the date chosen by yankee historians to mark the beginning of the war). And not only did the enticement of keeping their slaves NOT manage to lure the seven states that already had seceded into applying for readmission to the Union, neither did it prevent the other four eventually joining the Confederacy. None of those four even bothered voting on the amendment.
A mighty curious course of action for someone so bent on keeping their slaves at any cost, even to the point of dissolving the Union.
“Reagan was a Demoncrat for some time before he became a Republican.”
“I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
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