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World Truth ^ | 10-9-2017 | Staff

Posted on 10/09/2017 7:29:46 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine

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To: independentmind
The LV police chief has stated that there is evidence that indicates Paddock intended to escape.

Yeah I know but the other evidence that exists indicates to me that he did not intend to escape. Where did he think he would go?

61 posted on 10/09/2017 9:06:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

“Police said Paddock used Danley’s identification to check in to the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.”
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10/who_is_marilou_danley_what_we.html


62 posted on 10/09/2017 9:07:59 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: Raycpa

Up to the Four Seasons via the stairwell?


63 posted on 10/09/2017 9:09:24 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: SunkenCiv
My only question about the event itself is, where was the monitor for the hallway cam? Seems like he had an awful lot to do. And if he’s got the camera in the hall, why? That suggests he had a plan to get out. If it were just a suicide mission, he wouldn’t need to know what was going on in the hallway. But OTOH, if it were not a suicide mission, he’d have caused the chaos, shot a bunch of people, then bailed out before anyone reached the room. Unfortunately, he’d rented the room, so it would then become a manhunt.

I think he had a plan to get out but didn't care either way. He wanted to watch people die as he killed them, and nothing else mattered in comparison.

I read that the camera was on the peephole, or on a room service cart, or both. I assume the camera was to let him know when security got there, if they figured out where he was. I also suspect that besides scanning the ground with a scope (to enjoy what he saw as a show) instead of shooting all the time, he also checked the hall monitor so often that it interfered with his shooting. Bad planning and bad focus made the outcome less deadly than it might have been. I assume his plan was to run for it if he had no more good targets on the ground and no one was in the hallway. The guard ended that plan.

He was on an antidepressant, and that could easily have played a role in the shooting. Other than that, it looks like he was drug-free.

64 posted on 10/09/2017 9:12:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: glenduh

So he brings his own car, he brings his own weapons and he orders take out with his own name, he brings his own phones and he checks in with his girlfriends identification to avoid subsequent detection?

Using her id to aid his future escape makes no sense.


65 posted on 10/09/2017 9:13:45 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

What if there was some other ‘conflagration’ planned, to distract/confuse and give time for escape?

Still leaves one to wonder how he expected to hide even if he escaped...


66 posted on 10/09/2017 9:14:47 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: independentmind
Up to the Four Seasons via the stairwell?

And then? A helicopter waiting for him on the roof to a jet to take him to some remote island?

67 posted on 10/09/2017 9:15:24 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Jamestown1630

Would there be a reason the window broken in 32-135 is behind the most cumbersome part of the drapery?


68 posted on 10/09/2017 9:17:08 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: Raycpa

If he had managed to get to the Four Seasons, he most likely could have escaped by going down or going into a room, if he had an accomplice.

The Four Seasons has separate elevator banks.


69 posted on 10/09/2017 9:20:12 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: glenduh

I have no idea. It’s hard to actually see how things are, and photos are often very deceiving.


70 posted on 10/09/2017 9:22:09 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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how does anyone install their own set of cameras in a major vegas hotel hallway without him being seen? are their not cams already monitoring the hallways? if not, wouldnt someone notice the appearance of cameras all the sudden popping up on one floor?


71 posted on 10/09/2017 9:24:03 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Jamestown1630
What if there was some other ‘conflagration’ planned, to distract/confuse and give time for escape?

Assuming he was a strategic thinker, I would think that he had in mind several options for killing people during that stay. This would explain the tannerite.

72 posted on 10/09/2017 9:25:00 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Btw, I think it is a fair assumption that the LVPD is working off of much more information than either you or I are.

I would not dismiss what the police chief has said, just because you have your own theory, based solely on published information.


73 posted on 10/09/2017 9:25:01 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: raygunfan

I’ve stayed in a Mandalay suite. Long, expansive, desolate halls. Suite on end very private. I recall thinking... Do not walk this alone.


74 posted on 10/09/2017 9:32:46 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: independentmind
If he had managed to get to the Four Seasons, he most likely could have escaped by going down or going into a room, if he had an accomplice. The Four Seasons has separate elevator banks.

I have no doubt he could have planned on leaving the hotel, however where would be be able to go after this? It would take authorities less than 10 minutes to figure out who he was, where he lived, where his funds were, etc.

This man was a strategic planner. If he intended to escape, he would not have made his presence so obvious. For example, he would have used an empty room in a hotel he was not staying in, he would have obtained guns from an untraceable source, he would not have ordered room service with his own name, he would have used an auto that was clean from weapons.

This was not done by a smart man that thought he could escape.

75 posted on 10/09/2017 9:34:28 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: glenduh

but how does one hook up cams in the hallway without raising any sort of suspicion? isnt there a cleaning crew that comes thru the halls? wouldnt someone notice cam equipment?


76 posted on 10/09/2017 9:40:26 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Is it an absolute requirement for blog writing that one be a total imbecile?

1) AR-style rifles eject their expended brass upward and forward.

2) You'd think this "100,000 round shooter" would have noticed that ejection trajectory while he was getting pummeled by hot brass bouncing back from that sheet of plywood he was shooting through...

3) When shooting through a window, the best-concealed position is well back inside the room -- but, anyone who isn't masochistically enamored with being beaten on the head with a hammer will soon learn to stick at least the muzzle outside, to minimize the reverberating muzzle blast.

4) With the muzzle outside the window, where will most of the brass go? Out the window!

5) Gee -- one might wonder if the brass wound up in roughly the same place the broken window glass probably did: on the flat roof(s) of the 1-2 story building extensions 30-odd floors below his shooting position...

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The whole article is an exercise in conspiracy-wacko dumb@$$ery...

77 posted on 10/09/2017 9:40:51 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: Jamestown1630
Busted windows in two different rooms?

That does not seem like it would make sense in itself.

He could have got the same field of view by breaking two windows in the same room. He could also monitor his surveillance camera from his firing position. He would have lost that in moving to the other room

Having to move to two separate rooms did not seem planned to me.


78 posted on 10/09/2017 9:55:24 AM PDT by CodeJockey (White privilege. A byproduct of superior intellect. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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To: raygunfan

Isn’t most cleaning done during day? Cam equipment probably took but a minute to set up...roll the food cart out. Hotel security? Busy night...big concert outside.


79 posted on 10/09/2017 10:02:44 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: glenduh

Apropos nothing pertinent, the decor in that ‘Vista’ suite is dreadful...


80 posted on 10/09/2017 10:08:38 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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