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USS Fitzgerald, USS John S. McCain Collision Report
United States Naval Institute ^ | November 1, 2017 | Department of the Navy

Posted on 11/03/2017 9:58:33 AM PDT by Retain Mike

USS Fitzgerald

The collision between Fitzgerald and Crystal was avoidable and resulted from an accumulation of smaller errors over time, ultimately resulting in a lack of adherence to sound navigational practices. Specifically, Fitzgerald’s watch teams disregarded established norms of basic contact management and, more importantly, leadership failed to adhere to well-established protocols put in place to prevent collisions. In addition, the ship’s triad was absent during an evolution where their experience, guidance and example would have greatly benefited the ship.

USS JOHN S. MCCAIN

The collision between John S. McCain and Alnic MC was also avoidable and resulted primarily from complacency, over-confidence and lack of procedural compliance. A major contributing factor to the collision was sub-standard level of knowledge regarding the operation of the ship control console. In particular, McCain’s commanding officer disregarded recommendations from his executive officer, navigator and senior watch officer to set sea and anchor watch teams in a timely fashion to ensure the safe and effective operation of the ship. With regard to procedures, no one on the Bridge watch team, to include the commanding officer and executive officer, were properly trained on how to correctly operate the ship control console during a steering casualty.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.usni.org ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: collision; ussfitzgerald; ussjohnsmccain
For folks following the USS Fitzgerald, USS John S. McCain collisions here is one of the five articles the U.S. Naval Institute published today and yesterday.
1 posted on 11/03/2017 9:58:33 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

sounds like a (much)slower version of the Costco Parking Lot


2 posted on 11/03/2017 10:00:53 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Retain Mike

Wow, these guys didn’t do and know their basic jobs.


3 posted on 11/03/2017 10:06:28 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: faithhopecharity

LoL.


4 posted on 11/03/2017 10:06:44 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Retain Mike
Total lack of professionalism by the US Navy.
Mariners around the globe have been advised to be cautious when in the vicinity of US Navy vessels.
5 posted on 11/03/2017 10:08:28 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: faithhopecharity

Its no wonder since military promotions in the upper ranks during the Obama error were based on greeness and PC rather than actual miltary skills.

Even being named after McCain conferred a curse.


6 posted on 11/03/2017 10:09:45 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Red Steel

Wanna bet that there’s no sextant aboard? The over-reliance on technology has neutered sound seamanship. And just what was the bridge watch doing instead of maintaining a vigilant watch?


7 posted on 11/03/2017 10:09:59 AM PDT by pingman (More WINNING!)
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To: Retain Mike
Is it any wonder that our adversaries are spoiling for a fight?
8 posted on 11/03/2017 10:13:18 AM PDT by oldbrowser (There is a striking similarity between Islamist, BLM, Antifa, Nazis, anarchists, and the democrats.)
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To: Retain Mike

Sounds like the Obama cut backs on training lead to this situation.


9 posted on 11/03/2017 10:17:59 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Bonemaker

“John McCain” and “lack of procedural compliance” do seem to always appear in the same sentence.


10 posted on 11/03/2017 10:19:20 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Bonemaker

Ha! Yes. Correct. ( as for the naming, I’m advised it’s for his dad or granddad. Which makes sense. If the ship were named after him, it would have sunk to the bottom already just like the senator hisself )


11 posted on 11/03/2017 10:21:37 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: bigbob

I’m thinkin’ there is some sort of Sicilian curse on the name. Meghan should immediately assume a nom de plum for safety.


12 posted on 11/03/2017 10:33:07 AM PDT by Maris Crane (.)
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To: pingman

These two situations did not require precise navigation (knowledge of exact location of the ship). This was a failure of basic seamanship. Had you had a 12 year-old girl who races sailing dinghies at the conn these accidents would not have happened. And this is no insult to women who sail, but rather to the utter lack of professionalism or professional care on the part of the officers of what used to be my Navy.


13 posted on 11/03/2017 10:36:48 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: bigbob
lack of procedural compliance This is worse than that. Like I said, this is just a lack of the basic competence that is learned from messing about in small sailing craft.
14 posted on 11/03/2017 10:40:06 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Complete lack of discipline and command oversight, starting with the OOD and going on up the chain. Sailors who are not afraid of military disciple will slack off. OOD’s and above who do not demand discipline and fail to exercise oversight create lax sailors.


15 posted on 11/03/2017 10:43:33 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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To: Avalon Memories

Look all of that applies, but this is a lot more basic - OODs who do not know how to direct their ships out of danger


16 posted on 11/03/2017 10:47:37 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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