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To: achilles2000; bgill

Two graduate students were cycling by, and saw Turner on top of an unconscious woman and confronted him and he ran off. These two witnesses did not know Turner or the victim, and seemingly have no reason to lie.


18 posted on 12/03/2017 7:51:16 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The whole case turns on intent, consent, consciousness,evidence allowed, etc. None of these things could be determined by people cycling by at night at a distance. I’m sure both were drinking, but there is no evidence of a date-rape drug. Even the Mercury News, a leftist rag, points out that the defendant is in danger of an unfair, highly politicized trial if he gets a retrial. Wonder why he’s taking that risk? The important issue is that the presumption of innocence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt are being discarded when women make sexual allegations. Women are raped and assaulted, but women also lie for lots of reasons. At my sons’ college one of their friends was accused of sexual assault. Unfortunately for the lying bitch, there was a closed circuit camera in the area, which showed nothing of the sort happened. Do you think that bitch is in prison? Dream on.


19 posted on 12/03/2017 8:03:33 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: nickcarraway

Ran or staggered?

Brock was over 2x the limit when tested - and that was 4-6 hours later.

The victim remembered nothing. Complete alcohol blackout. One of many.

There were also no witnesses from the frat party that they left.

Two very drunk young adults (one a student, one mad at her boyfriend) met up at a frat party. They apparently left together to go back to his place, but only made it to a secluded spot near the party.

Yes, the two bicyclists - also going to a party - rode by and decided to intervene because the woman appeared to be unconscious.

The time line between when they left and when they were found was not able to be clarified.


20 posted on 12/03/2017 8:08:15 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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