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The Last Jedi: The First Anti-Star Wars, Star Wars Movie
Townhall.com ^ | January 1, 2018 | Jack Kerwick

Posted on 01/01/2018 1:10:56 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/01/2018 1:10:56 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Funny I said this, the many execution problems pale in comparison to the real conceptual change to SW that this movie engages in.

Star Wars was conceived as a western, set in space. White hats and black hats... this movie just made Star Wars no longer about the eternal struggle of good vs evil but turned it into a world of shades of gray....

That’s the real issue with this movie longer term, the execution problems are small potatoes compared to the fact Star Wars is not longer a battle of Good V Evil, but all about shades of gray and moral relativism.

This will damage the brand long term... people deal with shades of gray all day every day, they go to the movies for escapism... this turn in SW is the real long term problem... there is really no impetus to see what happens next.


2 posted on 01/01/2018 1:22:03 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Kaslin

The most telling part of the article is the picture; the girl in the dress is the tallest carbon-based lifeform in the photo.


3 posted on 01/01/2018 1:22:49 PM PST by Bernard (The only Fair Tax is the Tax that Taxes You and not Me)
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To: Kaslin
"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters. "
-Edmund Burke-

4 posted on 01/01/2018 1:23:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Kaslin

What could be more anti-Star Wars than the prequel trilogy? The Force is merely a midichlorian infection; the Jedi are a corrupt, dysfunctional bureaucracy ruling a planet of hundreds of trillions souls; a mere umpteen years before the desolate setting of A New Hope, the empire was a bustling, thriving place; and Darth Vader turned to the dark side because of some bad dreams; and the only way the Sith are worse than the Jedi is that they support free trade.


5 posted on 01/01/2018 1:24:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: Kaslin

One of my friends is a huge star wars fan. He loved this movie. ‘Course, he’s part of the younger generation that may have been conditioned to accept the new message.

I’ve not seen it yet. I very much liked Rogue One.


6 posted on 01/01/2018 1:24:58 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Bernard

.. and she does seem mostly Carbon-based.


7 posted on 01/01/2018 1:26:09 PM PST by dangus
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To: Kaslin

Long live the First Order at this point. Galaxy’s Edge book series is way better than Star Wars, and more so now that TLJ has crapped on Star Wars. It isn’t even a “they raped my childhood” thing. They crapped on TFA, and crapped on any notion of heroism, sacrifice, good vs. evil, and great characters.


8 posted on 01/01/2018 1:27:02 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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“There are people who say that there is no such thing as Good and Evil; that it is all a matter of one’s point of view. These are the people we used to call Evil.”


9 posted on 01/01/2018 1:30:57 PM PST by VietVet
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To: Kaslin
it is civilization, its traditions and institutions, from which all corruption springs.

nature vs nurture vs individual choices. For libtards, it is nurture. Big government + behaviorism = utopia & perfected man

10 posted on 01/01/2018 1:33:48 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Kaslin

Once Disney got into the act that was it for me. I will not give Disney any of my money if I can help it.


11 posted on 01/01/2018 1:34:59 PM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: HamiltonJay

It’s not really shades of grey. It’s acknowledging the story told so far. Many a SW fan has talked at length about how the Jedi are, in the end, rather ineffective and kind of dumb. They have all this power but the majority of Jedi training is in not using, being stoic, having no attachments, and being neutral. They aren’t actually good guys at all. When they find “the chosen one” who will “return balance” to the Force they don’t even bother to notice that they’re in charge and they don’t WANT balance. Meanwhile they work closely with a barely closeted Sith Lord to help him kill the Republic and build the Empire, and they never even notice the fact that he’s running both sides of the war.

In a lot of ways LJ gets SW BACK to what it was. It breaks it away from the Skywalker soap opera it had become, it actually gets it BACK to good vs evil while discarding the Jedi (not actually good guys) vs Sith (pretty much just anti-Jedis without much direction other than not being Jedi). It breaks SW out of a naval gazing spiral it got into near the end of Empire. We now have a bad guy whose bad because that’s what he wants to be, and he’s being opposed by good guys not primarily motivated by weird stoicism. It’s actually much more black and white now than it has been since Darth wound up Luke’s father.


12 posted on 01/01/2018 1:38:38 PM PST by discostu (let's do another bad one, cause I like it when the blood drains from Dave's face.)
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To: Kaslin

Saw it.

The suck was strong in that movie.


13 posted on 01/01/2018 1:39:42 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: robroys woman

Rogue One was a really good, though not perfect movie. It deserves it’s place in the SW collection. I’d give it 7-8.

TLJ was pathetic in so many regards. I’ve said my peace since watching it. I’m moving on, and will be unlikely to attend future installments in theater. From what I hear, the upcoming Han Solo origin pic is likely to be dreck as well.


14 posted on 01/01/2018 1:39:55 PM PST by catbertz
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I liked the first Star Wars. The second was a bit lame (the one with the pant-less teddy bears). Stopped watching after that.


15 posted on 01/01/2018 1:43:08 PM PST by Cowboy Bob
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“The suck was strong in that movie.”

I’m a big Star Wars fan. Saw the first one when I was 10. This movie was either boring or sucked. Just bad, bad, bad. And trying too hard to be politically correct. BTW, I liked Rogue One.


16 posted on 01/01/2018 1:46:23 PM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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Dude....it’s just movie.


17 posted on 01/01/2018 1:47:18 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong. Luke was simply depressed and discouraged.

Yoda told him to lighten-up.

All was good.


18 posted on 01/01/2018 1:47:23 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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“The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said ‘This is mine’, and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes...

As if nomadic tribes never fight. Rousseau was a twat.

That said, I like Kylo Ren. He's a hot mess. LOL!

19 posted on 01/01/2018 1:48:17 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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Is it me, or is George Lucas just making it up as he goes?


20 posted on 01/01/2018 1:48:21 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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