Posted on 01/11/2018 1:05:20 PM PST by C19fan
Why cost of $3,000 per rifle?
$500 for direct cost to build, and $2,500 for G & A ?
Is this the same gun used in the best gun fight ever in the Move “Heat”?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Heat
I have shot the 416 at a private showing. The HK rep challenged us to “break it”. We did, but I can’t say how due to a contract. I thought it was heavy and not as fast as my AR’s with a piston that sadly were lost in Lake Tahoe during an outing.
Don’t talk about high maintenance costs. remember what that P.O.S. Mcnamara did trying to save 50 cents per M16 by not chroming the bores. Alot of G.I.s in Viet Nam were found dead with a cleaning rod stuck down their barrels trying to get a stuck case out. That’s what I call a high maintenance cost. If it cost’s $500 a year to replace barrels I’m all for it if our Jarheads can out gun any enemies foreign or domestic.
Just going by the designation, it must be 6.75 times better.
Same here. HK is always ridiculously heavy and bulky for each design they copy.
So look like now the Anti-tank assault men are being pulled from the infantry. And now M249s will not be in the squad or fire teams but will be in weapon platoon.
A fire team now will now have an automatic rifleman who can’t put down any more fire than anyone else in the team.
SAW was...
1. not accurate enough
(It was a belt fed light machine gun, not a sniper rifle. It is meant to control an area and to lay down a base of fire to support maneuver)
2. location easily detected by the enemy
(Ok, you have found a machine gun well emplaced and pouring fire on you...your move)
3. very high consumption of ammo
(That also means it sends a LOT of ammo in the right direction. That’s a feature and a blessing to a grunt needing fire support, not an problem. That same wasting ammo complaint saddled the 7th Cavalry with single shot Springfields when the Cheyenne and Sioux had Henry’s and Winchester 66’s)
Just for fun... an inaccurate M-249 at work against an RPG shooter. An oldie but a goodie.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ce_1374246544
Oh, the SAW was so much fun to shoot! Only got to do that once at Fort McCoy during weapons familiarization. Then on the same range I got re-acquainted with an old friend, Ma Deuce. Fired five rounds, paused & when the dust settled they were still on the way 800 yards down range.
The SAW is a scaled-down M-60, am I right? I fired it from the hip like in the movies.
Did I mention I was 60 at the time? Old warrant officer here.
So, more accurate than the M4 because of the longer sight radius/barrel? Couldn’t the same be said of the M-16?
I like it!
Yes. Interesting isn’t it? Of course they won’t lose the stupid 5.56 which is the actual problem. All they ever needed to do was replace the uppers with TiN/TiCN/NiB/NP3 coated internals, 18” barrels, in 6.5 Grendel.
This way, in 15 years or so, they can replace all those “old fashioned” heavy rifles with light-weight (shorter barrel w/ gas impingement) “modern” rifles and the circle of life (in tax dollar wasting) continues. They will probably still be in 5.56 as well because heaven knows we can’t ever seem to get rid of the most monumental blunders.
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Looked at the civilian version at the gunshop a couple of years ago, nice rifle but way too heavy (and expensive), at least for me.
The best quote from the Commandant:
“I could kit out every grunt in the Marine Corps with the coolest shit head-to-toe for $100 million,” Neller said. “And I intend to do that.”
Hmm. Is the guy sort of crouching getting ready to shoot the seated guys in the back? OOps. Now I see that one of the folks seated is a gal, not a guy.
HK looks pretty much like an AR variant, except for the gas system.
The Germans use the G36 rifle.
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