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Coyote Tracker: San Francisco’s Uneasy Embrace of a Predator’s Return
Bay Nature ^ | January 02, 2018 | Kim Todd

Posted on 01/17/2018 10:29:30 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: MarMema
"The staying power of this idea became clear when she asked students in her introduction to ecology course, “Do you think a predator could ever drive a prey species to extinction?” “They uniformly answer no — even though it does happen all the time,” she said.

It's almost funny.

Academics tend not to see humans as special creations of God. We're just animals. Not special.
And we're bad, because we hunted the Passenger Pigeon into extinction.
And the Dodo.
And the great auk.
etc.

But people still think a predator cannot cause prey to become extinct? Look in the mirror.

21 posted on 01/18/2018 5:12:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: nickcarraway

CA’s okay with two-legged coyotes, but not the 4-legged variety.

Bigots.


22 posted on 01/18/2018 5:14:47 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Coyotes eat a lot of mice, I am told.

Article focuses on coyotes coming down from Marin.

Why not discuss from the south? There is a butt load of them on the peninsula.

When younger I rode my mountain bike in the area between the Water Temple and Montara Peak, and saw a coyote almost every single time I rode. They sometimes stalked me.

Lots and lots of them in the area of 280 and 92.

Maybe they are hunting the promiscuous homos at that scenic vista right there on 280.


23 posted on 01/18/2018 7:29:47 AM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: CurlyDave

Same here but forest is pretty thick and daylight
sightings are relatively rare.


24 posted on 01/18/2018 7:48:33 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: exDemMom

“...analogous to the early relationship between humans and dogs (or cats)...”

After that Russian experiment which domesticated Silver Foxes in 40 generations, I wonder if it would be possible to domesticate coyotes? Wish I could afford to set up such a program.

However, wild coyotes are an invasive (in most places), dangerous predator. The only sensible thing to do is exterminate them outside their natural range.


25 posted on 01/18/2018 7:52:13 AM PST by VietVet
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To: Slyfox

I’ve seen raccoons drag flattened squirrels from the
road, too.


26 posted on 01/18/2018 7:53:36 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: ClearCase_guy
You should read about Isle Royale. They put a bunch of moose and wolves on it to prove the theory of natural balance.

ON our tax dollars.

Some years later the moose won. There were like 1000 moose and only 4 wolves left.

So can they leave it alone? No, the left has to whine and sob until we all pay for more wolves to be put on the island.

I cannot tell you how much this stuff ticks me off.

Most decent academics will tell you THERE IS NO NATURAL BALANCE but some looney leftist earth-worshippers are still stuck in the 60s and spending our tax money on their idiocy.

27 posted on 01/18/2018 8:25:44 AM PST by MarMema
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I am not sure she meant humans.

In BC the caribou herds are nearly all decimated thanks to the wolf introduction. The great elk herds of the west near Yellowstone have mostly been declared unrecoverable, also thanks to the wolf introduction.

28 posted on 01/18/2018 8:29:22 AM PST by MarMema
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I am not sure she meant humans.

Well, not to get to a philosophical/theological debate and completely deviate from the actual topic, but ...

As a Christian, I can say that humans are more than animals. We are special. Perhaps different rules apply to us -- we have free will, we have moral laws, we ought to answer to a higher authority. It's different for wolves.

But the typical Academic researcher would not see it that way. For many of them, there is no higher authority, there is no moral law. We are just animals. Smart animals, I suppose, but just animals. From a strictly materialist standpoint, perhaps even free will should be questioned.

Well, if we are animals, then we are like wolves and we can be slotted into the predator-prey equation. In which case, clearly predators drive some prey into extinction. The Liberal Do-Gooders are always giving us a hard time on that score. We killed the Dodo, right?

But if the predator-prey equilibrium can be questioned at all, then surely humans must be removed from the conversation. So ... we're not just animals. We are somehow special.

Academics often conveniently shift humans around -- sometimes we are treated like special creations of God and must be considered somehow separate from the animals, and sometimes we are no better than a ground hog. It seems to depend on where the grant money is flowing or what the political ideology demands..

29 posted on 01/18/2018 8:41:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: nickcarraway

A dead coyote. There’s a real tragedy.


30 posted on 01/18/2018 9:01:06 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: nickcarraway

Very good and interesting read. Thanks for posting it all!


31 posted on 01/18/2018 11:45:40 AM PST by octex
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To: Ciaphas Cain

*** “If coyotes fulfill some vital role in the ecology, I have yet to hear of it” ***

They feed mosquitoes, ticks, fleas and lice that would otherwise go hungry.


32 posted on 01/18/2018 7:37:50 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Did You Screw up your Life? You get a “Second Chance” every second.)
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