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To: faithhopecharity
It is really very very very very sad, and disgusting to the core, that the popes have been associating with the Muslim terrorists and dictators , the greatest enemies of Biblical faith on earth ( and even kissing up to them big time).......all the “great reformers” were right about the Vatican, after all?

Neither the Catholic Church nor any of the other ancient apostolic liturgical churches have Biblical faith. Their religion is not based on Biblical faith at all. Only Protestantism (which the liturgicals will be happy to inform you is a recent inauthentic reconstruction with no roots in the chrstian past) has "Biblical faith." The only Biblical faith to ever exist is Judaism, which chrstianity insisted on "replacing."

The liturgicals will also happily inform you that nothing in the Hebrew Bible actually happened. The whole thing to them is one big chrstological parable. They claim that primitive man lacked the vocabulary to discuss or express abstract thought so he used stories instead. That's all the Biblical narrative means to them. It doesn't make any differences that their liturgies include references to Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, or Melchizedek. These are all simply parables which modern man would express abstractly. It is apparently lost on them that thanking G-d for something He never actually did is blasphemous and sacrilegious.

The ancient churches are all also fanatically anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, and anti-Israel. They hold American Fundamentalists in absolute contempt not only for their literalism but for their Zionism as well. According to them, "Zionist chrstianity is not chrstianity at all." I suggest they must know what they are talking about. It is extremely naive of Fundamentalist American FReepers to not know this about their Catholic and Orthodox "brethren."

In other words, there is nothing surprising about any of this, and it would have happened the same way whether the Pope were a heretic or perfectly orthodox. They all oppose Israel.

12 posted on 02/04/2018 1:10:13 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

well,
yes.
but....
there are millions and millions of Christians, including clerics, that have a much more positive understanding or grasp of Christian faith... including (for many, not all of them) the Biblically-based facts that the Jewish people have to rebuild their Promised Land including their Temple in Jerusalem before the Messiah (re-) appears...........others believe the Jewish people have to be back in their Land and ready in Jerusalem for the Messiah (or perhaps an associate of his) to rebuild the Jewish Temple, wherefrom the Messiah will reign
there are considerable prophecies in the Christian scriptures supporting either of these closely-related POV’s, so that many many millions of good Christians do support Israel (if only for this eschatological reason)

Many additional good Christian faithful (who may or many not be very interested in Biblical prophecy) still are strong supporters of Israel for other Bible-based reasons, such as Genesis 12:3.
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of course, I do realize that the Vatican in particular has had a very long anti=Semitic “foreign ministry” including several previous pontiffs, ALAS!
Nevertheless, there have been a number of excellent signs that this horrid aspect may have been corrected, to become something safely put behind the RCChurch’s long past. For instance, Popes John23 and Benedict, and Saint JP2 inbetween them.. all taught a far, far more Christian (accepting, loving, friendly) attitude of the Jewish people....
I could post a hundred of these pontifical teachings, statements...FYI.
BUT.... alas.....well, we will see how Pope Francis proceeds. I have to acknowledge I am quite concerned for him....and he is certainly doing the RCChurch a great deal of damage (including most prominently in the marriage and pro-life arenas, just for instances to illustrate how serious the situation is now at the Vatican...)
All I am saying is that there is hope for the RC Church (at least in this one limited respect)....


13 posted on 02/04/2018 1:29:36 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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