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Progressivism = Henry George. Not Karl Marx.
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Posted on 02/08/2018 5:14:16 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

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To: ProgressingAmerica

In the end though, your explanation taught me something I didn’t know before.


21 posted on 02/08/2018 9:11:06 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Progressive Movement and the Transformation of American Politics

Long article but contains a lot of background on the Progressive movement.
22 posted on 02/08/2018 11:11:39 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: reasonisfaith; nicollo; Kalam; IYAS9YAS; laplata; mvonfr; Southside_Chicago_Republican; celmak; ...
"I think you’ve presented an actual distinction."

I am glad it resonated. I appreciate the questions and being challenged, it forces me to think things through and remember things I have in the past written about.

As for an ultimate distinction you requested, that is probably impossible.

There can only be so many distinctions among/between the forces of pro-big-government. That's why to us, a big government Nazi doesn't really look all that different than a big government communist. But to them - a Nazi couldn't look any more different than a communist. They see a bigger difference there than one might find if a comparison were done between a preying mantis and the moon.

This isn't the reason, I suspect, why the progressives first found themselves after a while morphing into socialists(and again, later, communists), it's actually a limitation on our end. A statist is a statist is a statist is a statist to us and we don't want anything to do with any of them, no matter how loudly each may scream that their utopian master plan is different from the others' utopian master plan. (And is the correct master plan btw!)

I do hope you will not stop asking questions - not of me, per se. Though to be clear, you can ask me as many as you want. Just ask questions. When we stop asking questions, I think that strengthens progressivism. That's why they indoctrinate. They need us all checking the exact same checkboxes without any deviation whatsoever.

If anything, that's one of my biggest goals, is to get new questions on the table because you cannot get the correct answer until you ask the correct question.

23 posted on 02/10/2018 5:17:07 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: Bratch

Thank you. Every time I read something from those Hillsdale guys (Thomas West, Pestritto, and others) I learn something new about the darkness of progressivism.


24 posted on 02/10/2018 5:27:34 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“When we stop asking questions, I think that strengthens progressivism. That’s why they indoctrinate”.

Absolutely! They rely on lies and deception and ignorance. They must always be challenged.

Political correctness was designed by them to control the narrative. It has worked remarkably well. Thank God it isn’t working as well now and people are getting fed up with it.


25 posted on 02/10/2018 5:28:51 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Actually, the general question to ask is “Does this policy increase or decrease personal freedom?”
However, as I get older, I have started wondering about the behavior of the general population and whether or not we can still have a free country.
“America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.” It may not be from Alexis de Tocqueville, but it is still correct.


26 posted on 02/10/2018 5:31:23 PM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Actually, the general question to ask is “Does this policy increase or decrease personal freedom?”

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It’s the frog in the pot. Most people are very selfish and don’t see the big picture. incrementalism. If something doesn’t appear to affect them, they don’t care.


27 posted on 02/10/2018 5:44:56 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Placemark,


28 posted on 02/10/2018 9:42:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
If you really want to make a difference, either get on the school board or at least attend.

"I do hope you will not stop asking questions - not of me, per se. Though to be clear, you can ask me as many as you want. Just ask questions. When we stop asking questions, I think that strengthens progressivism. That's why they indoctrinate. They need us all checking the exact same checkboxes without any deviation whatsoever. "

I know empirically the one thing they can't stand is questions, especially when they just run through the financials ...

Agenda item 6, Treaurers report on the lunchroom, any second?

Second

Any questions?

All in favor say Aye

(in unison); Aye

Motion passes ...


Everyone's at the school board meeting for the juicy stuff ... queers, trans, firings, scandals etc., but they're passing MILLIONS monthly through "food" and you have no idea what they're passing except it's the cafeteria bill.

29 posted on 02/11/2018 2:31:38 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: reasonisfaith

Do you mind if I ask you a question?


30 posted on 02/14/2018 5:54:03 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Not at all, given what we know.


31 posted on 02/14/2018 5:56:26 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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This is one of my favorite questions: (This happened prior to World War II)

Why do you think the progressives changed their name from "progressivism" to "liberalism"?

32 posted on 02/15/2018 4:53:08 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

To make an anti-freedom movement sound like a freedom movement.


33 posted on 02/15/2018 5:01:55 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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Knowing that to be the case, how is that information helpful/beneficial?


34 posted on 02/23/2018 4:02:25 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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You mean for the progressives? It’s not.

Both the act of lying and the machinery of progressivism are inherently unprofitable. On all levels.


35 posted on 02/23/2018 7:52:20 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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