You don’t want to listen to the current crop of Beevis and Butthead? These two, especially that Hogg POS so send me over the top when I hear them blathering, I want to put my foot through their asses. The problem I see with them, and I don’t necessarily blame them about this, is there is never a point of reference in any of their arguments. It is for them a like a moment in time that becomes becomes the new reality. So, lets all start from their pollyanna approach: there are no opposing nations, everyone lives in peace and harmony, we all consume legumes, and we fart rose aromas. No need for guns, no need for money, no need for anything because we are in heaven on earth. Life is peaceful bliss every moment so we can go back to play our new style video games with no violence in them. No school debts, no credit cards just unending piles of credits to buy and do what we want. Self centered history challenged nano second decision makers. Used to have a boss like that. We used to say he spoke and dressed well, and after that you said it all.