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How did anyone gain access to their data without an API and WSDL? Facebook gave access knowing
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Posted on 04/11/2018 9:01:18 AM PDT by a little elbow grease

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To: Flick Lives; dfwgator
If anybody started talking APIs or JSON, I’d bet the first question from one of the august senators would be “For the record, what’s Jason’s last name?”

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LOL

21 posted on 04/11/2018 9:28:46 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: a little elbow grease

In order for an outside companies or organization to access the subscriber’s data, Facebook would had to provide API’s(have a programmer to write the API access to the data).

Other words, Facebook had to grant access to those outside companies and organizations. The Facebook private messages cannot be scrapped by bots.

I cancel my Facebook account today.....


22 posted on 04/11/2018 9:29:17 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: a little elbow grease
If anybody started talking APIs or JSON, I’d bet the first question from one of the august senators would be “For the record, what’s Jason’s last name?” __________________________ LOL

Very "Pointy-Haired Boss"....


23 posted on 04/11/2018 9:30:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rappini

The only thing he was accused of “stealing” was a concept.


24 posted on 04/11/2018 9:30:41 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: DEPcom

Exactly, you have to apply to Facebook to get a Token to be able to access data via their API. You have to tell them which specific application you are using it for, and fill out other information.


25 posted on 04/11/2018 9:32:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: a little elbow grease

He tried to blow past it in his prepared statement as if no one would notice it was created in 2007 and they jump to 2013 as if the 2008 and 2012 elections never happened...

https://www.scribd.com/document/375916863/Zuckerberg-Statement-to-Congress#fullscreen&from_embed


“II. CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA
Over the past few weeks, we’ve been working to understand exactly what happened with Cambridge Analytica and taking steps to make sure this doesn’t happen again. We took important actions to prevent this from happening again today four years ago, but we also made mistakes, there’s more to do, and we need to step up and do it.

A. What Happened
In 2007, we launched the Facebook Platform with the vision that more apps should be social. Your calendar should be able to show your friends’ birthdays, your maps should show where your friends live, and your address book should show their pictures. To do this, we enabled people to log into apps and share who their friends were and some information about them.

In 2013, a Cambridge University researcher named Aleksandr Kogan created a personality quiz app. It was installed by around 300,000 people who agreed to share some of their Facebook information as well as some information from their friends whose privacy settings allowed it. Given the way our platform worked at the time this meant Kogan was able to access some information about tens of millions of their friends”


TOO Bad we remember the Obama campaign team bragging about data mining Facebook

https://youtu.be/mZmcyHpG31A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVLK8SyOChY


26 posted on 04/11/2018 9:45:02 AM PDT by edzo4 (Thank Q very much!!!)
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To: Snowybear
"WSDL is old as is SOAP. They’re likely using some native web API."

It may be old, but I can tell you as a programmer there are a lot of systems out there that provide access to retrieve and send data via xml using WSDL. I don't write any code to access facebook, but other major systems do use it.
27 posted on 04/11/2018 9:48:30 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Zuckerboy didn’t become a multi billionare by giving things away. He sold access to your data."

If the thing is free, you are the product.

28 posted on 04/11/2018 9:51:49 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: edzo4

There are several other methods to get data from the browser that don’t involve an API to the FB server. An application on the client side can save the HTML that is served and parse the raw tags and text using a custom parser. In most cases these days the HTML contains JavaScript rather than raw tags that interface with the server API and render the pages in the browser dynamically in memory only rather than in a text document.If an application on the client has access to the video frame buffer they can do a BMP dump and then use character recognition to “scrape” the bits and translate them to recognizable tags and fields with data. The application would need to be installed on the client machine but if the UI is clever enough the user will install it without knowing what it does. Most of the data gather by FB and Google is done by scraping public HTML and indexing it into large document databases that can be mined for cross associations and relationships of interest to data scientists.


29 posted on 04/11/2018 9:55:45 AM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: Dave Wright

we used oracle data cloud for targeted advertising

https://cloud.oracle.com/opc/saas/datacloud/wp/understanding-value-combining-data-wp.pdf


30 posted on 04/11/2018 10:04:10 AM PDT by edzo4 (Thank Q very much!!!)
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To: a little elbow grease; Snowybear

WSDL is irrelevant, that’s really only needed for overly enthusiastic dot net web server developers who want the internet to conform to them, instead of facing the reality its the other way around. FB API has always been leaky, I recall being able to peruse private data the same day the graph api came out, for example. Login with Facebook had several back doors as another example. The industry is built on a platform of popsicle sticks and razor blades...don’t panic.


31 posted on 04/11/2018 10:06:49 AM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I still use WSDL\SOAP on some older stuff also (systems we have not upgraded yet).

My newer apps uses OData with the data in Json format. I also use tokens to control access to all my data web services. You can not get data from me unless I grant that data access to you to you.

I do you use Facebook, Google, and other social media to allow users to sign into the website....

Not sure if I will recommend any Facebook APIs for my future apps or upgrade the old apps when facebook changes their APIs........ Cutting facebook off on any future business that I have a say so on....


32 posted on 04/11/2018 10:11:19 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: a little elbow grease
Maybe their ordinary SQL server permitted public access. That API has been published for years. Perhaps they just copied the database using the well-published FTP facility.

I suspect Facebook provided the API and security credentials to whomever paid the secret fees.

33 posted on 04/11/2018 10:16:49 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: a little elbow grease

Wine is fine but liquor is quicker.


34 posted on 04/11/2018 10:21:56 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: DEPcom

Someone mentioned that Facebook uses SQL Server previously. Man, I have a hard time believing that all of the data collection they do they don’t use something other than SQL Server. I would have thought they use something proprietary or even Oracle which I think is better for data warehousing.


35 posted on 04/11/2018 10:29:21 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Facebook uses Hadoop architecture with a hiveQL query language and Cassandra for the private messaging.

Facebook is also writing their own AI....


36 posted on 04/11/2018 10:42:24 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom
"Facebook uses Hadoop architecture with a hiveQL query language and Cassandra for the private messaging."

When an earlier poster talked about SQL Server I did have a hard time believing that. Perhaps when they started out, but not with a 2 billion person user base.
37 posted on 04/11/2018 10:45:30 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: a little elbow grease

38 posted on 04/11/2018 10:48:00 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: DEPcom; Old Teufel Hunden
My newer apps uses OData with the data in Json format. I also use tokens to control access to all my data web services. You can not get data from me unless I grant that data access to you.

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Are you listening, Zuckerberg????

39 posted on 04/11/2018 10:59:37 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: Captain Compassion

Your mind appears to be empty.


40 posted on 04/11/2018 11:00:39 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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