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A Tesla Short Seller Gets Q2 Results...
YouTube ^ | 8/2/18 | Michael March

Posted on 08/03/2018 8:04:09 AM PDT by Moonman62

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To: rb22982

Dude, you said YTD. That means through August 3.


141 posted on 08/03/2018 6:26:18 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

Dude, it is their last public available filing of any earnings. Their last three years of public information was -$500m, $-790m and -218m in cash from operations. You claimed they were cash flow positive and their last report - which shows the prior 3 years, was all negative. But again, thanks for demonstrating your stupidity. Goodnight.


142 posted on 08/03/2018 6:27:44 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: TexasGator

Do you seriously not understand how public company reporting works and when firms/sell side analysts and research notes say YTD they mean YTD through last publicly available information, which in the case of vast majority of firms except some retail means June 30th at the moment for 2018?


143 posted on 08/03/2018 6:29:23 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Dude, do you really not understand what YTD means?

Year to date (YTD) refers to the period beginning the first day of the current calendar year or fiscal year up to the current date. YTD information is useful for analyzing business trends or comparing performance data, and the acronym often modifies concepts such as investment returns, earnings and net pay.”

Investopedia


144 posted on 08/03/2018 6:31:47 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: rb22982

“Dude, it is their last public available filing of any earnings.”

DUDE, that was 2016. You cannot use 2016 data to describe 2018 performance!


145 posted on 08/03/2018 6:33:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: rb22982

“You claimed they were cash flow positive”

Please do not make up things. Cite my post.


146 posted on 08/03/2018 6:34:39 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

That is exactly what I said LOL.


147 posted on 08/03/2018 6:37:04 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: TexasGator
Post 112 you said "Cash-flow positive SolarCity."

Yet, SolarCity no longer reports and hasn't since the link I provided. So again, I'm done with this conversation as you keep lying and moving the goal post. You have still yet to show a single P&L that shows Musk's companies with a positive gaap net income, period, or even a positive free cash flow from operations.

148 posted on 08/03/2018 6:38:14 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

“Post 112 you said “Cash-flow positive SolarCity.”

Yep. And you faked around your moving goalposts saying their cash flow was negative per their reports till I finally got you to admit they were now part of Tesla and had no recent public filings.

Then you moved the goal posts by misquoting me.


149 posted on 08/03/2018 6:45:38 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: rb22982

“That is exactly what I said LOL.”

Yep. You used 2016 data to represent 2018 performance!

ROTFLMAO!


150 posted on 08/03/2018 6:47:24 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: rb22982

“So again, I’m done with this conversation “

Did you double down today on your short positions?


151 posted on 08/03/2018 6:48:48 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: rb22982

Anyone can pick one of the 5 best performing stocks in the last 15 years and claim far later they were right, while ignoring the other 20 stocks you picked that were duds or worse.

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That’s not what I claimed. What I claimed was that the FR financial experts were just as negative about AMZN when it was a younger company as they are about TSLA today, and that I would be in good shape if I had invested against their advice.


152 posted on 08/03/2018 6:49:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

Following the advice of FR experts I put my down payment on a cold fusion generator to be delivered in 2014. Order is still being processed but I hope for delivery before next summer.


153 posted on 08/03/2018 6:56:37 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: rb22982

Well, here’s a quote from the WSJ article that the Motley Fool references, which admits that SpaceX was profitable before their mishaps in 2015 and 2016:

That June 2015 disaster, followed by months of launch delays, contributed to a quarter-billion dollar annual loss and a 6% drop in revenue, after several years of surging sales and small profits.

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Since the mishap in September of 2016, SpaceX has had a perfect record and they now dominate the global commercial launch market. They save the taxpayers and launch customers a lot of money by driving down launch costs. SpaceX has an estimated private value between $25 billion and $30 billion based on their latest placements.

Corporations have a market value, and while you may disagree with the value of Musk’s companies, he has a long and successful record of creating companies that are highly profitable for investors. That includes Zip2, Paypal, TSLA, and SpaceX. And in the future probably the Boring Company.


154 posted on 08/03/2018 7:13:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: TexasGator

I remember those experts. They were very passionate about their advice.


155 posted on 08/03/2018 7:14:46 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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