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1 posted on 12/03/2018 12:11:29 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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Just sayin’.....we’ve given a total “pass” to the questionable aspects in McCain and GHWB resumes lately.


2 posted on 12/03/2018 12:17:41 PM PST by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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It is not surprising that the USSR communist propaganda exaggerated these men and their battle against the Germans.

Then again, it is not surprising that (some, many, all) of today’s “historians” are attacking AND ARE DEFENDING the communists and their propaganda.

Where is Putin and Putin’s propaganda machine and bureaucracies? Wherever it will benefit Putin and his view of the future of Russia.


3 posted on 12/03/2018 12:18:38 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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According to a version long advanced by Soviet and Russian authorities, 28 soldiers of Panfilov's division gave their lives stopping a column of several dozen German tanks in its advance on Moscow

Or, they were shot by Soviet Commissars after running for cover.

4 posted on 12/03/2018 12:26:22 PM PST by PGR88
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That’s one thing that always PO’d about communism. There are probably real heroic awesome stories we’ll all never hear about because they didn’t fit the communist agenda. It’s a loss for all of us except the jerks in charge. And our left wants more of it.


5 posted on 12/03/2018 12:34:24 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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"All of them were sacred martyrs outside of a religious context. They are our spiritual template," he writes. "Our national identity is based on the examples and the names of these civilian saints, and generally speaking the civic and historical unity of our country."

Medinsky

Fake History... Fake Heros... Fake country.

6 posted on 12/03/2018 12:36:34 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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And Vasily Zaitsev didn’t shoot Major Konig through the scope lens. Zaitsev was a very successful sniper, but Konig German sniper didn’t exist. OCD nation back in Berlin has no record of him despite a very good Jude Law hit movie.


8 posted on 12/03/2018 12:51:40 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Believable on the surface, as some of these battles had 100s of thousand of dead on both sides. War time footage of some of the tank battles is just unbelievable, yet it happened.


12 posted on 12/03/2018 1:17:26 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Back in 1948 the proof was in that it was some political officer’s newspaper account, and not true. But they decided to just leave it be.

I’m guessing at least 80% of our recorded history is nothing like what we think it is. That trend has especially kicked into high gear after the film industry took off.

Lot’s of fantastic movies choose artistic license over truth.
In Young Guns at the end, when Billy shoots Murphy between the eyes, it didn’t happen. In reality, Murphy died of cancer several months later. And Josiah Gordon “Doc” Scurlock (Kiefer Sutherland) didn’t steal Murphy’s Chinese girl before being shot dead. He married a mexican woman and moved to Texas where he lived until 1929.

And Fighting Sullivans is a fantastic movie, and a tear jerker to be sure, but the death of the boys was very inaccurate.

And those Knights of the Round Table? The round table has no basis in fact, and it’s not even proven that Arthur existed. Lancelot was never heard of until about 700 years later until French poet Chrétien de Troyes’ mentions him in the 12th century.

No matter the society, we always get the most romantic, gallant, and inspiring story. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.


13 posted on 12/03/2018 1:20:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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A very famous World War II legend in Russia.

The historical accuracy of the incident doesn’t matter. Russians believe the Panfilov 28 are heroes.

And legends of military bravery take on a life of their own. So much so, a movie was made about it.


15 posted on 12/03/2018 1:53:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“CHARGE !!!!”

But I have No Weapon or Ammunition!

Pick it up on the way... if you look back, you die.

(Russian Motivation)


16 posted on 12/03/2018 1:53:46 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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Proof that these Russian men don’t really exist: Mueller just indicted them.


18 posted on 12/03/2018 2:24:44 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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