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It's up to Kirk Cousins to prove he's not an $84 million bust
Yahoo ^ | December 12, 2018 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 12/13/2018 8:42:06 AM PST by C19fan

Last January, Case Keenum threw 20 incompletions, threw two picks, and threw away what felt like a Super Bowl in the cold of the NFC championship game in Philadelphia.

The Minnesota Vikings saw their quarterback get outdueled by Eagles backup Nick Foles, dashing the dream of hosting the Super Bowl. Afterward, the franchise focused on a single thing – get a quarterback, just about any quarterback, at just about any price.

All the other pieces were there, they believed.

So they went out and got Kirk Cousins, for $84 million over three years, convincing him to come to Minnesota because of how close the Vikings were to winning everything.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: athletes; casekeenum; chicago; chicagobears; crappyteam; dabears; danwetzel; eagles; football; illinois; kirkcousins; minnesota; minnesotavikings; nfc; nfl; nickfoles; philadelphia; philadelphiaeagles
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To: Spruce

LOL!


41 posted on 12/13/2018 10:23:48 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: C19fan

The Vikings fell into the “all we need is a QB to get to the Super Bowl” trap, overlooking “

...the fact that their offensive line wasn’t very good and their defense bore much of the blame for the championship-game collapse, and then tied their entire improvement plan to a quarterback whose career record against winning teams entering this year was 4-19.” https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810480-qb-needy-teams-listen-up-beware-the-next-kirk-cousins


42 posted on 12/13/2018 10:29:56 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Rummyfan
Marino never had a workhorse back and he never had dominant receivers either. Guys like Mark Duper and Mark Clayton were good, but having Marino throwing the ball turned them into Pro Bowl players.

The one thing Miami had that really fit Marino's quick-release style perfectly was an offensive line that could pass-block exceptionally well.

There are four NFL quarterbacks who have been sacked more than 40 times this season -- including Dak Prescott, the league leader with 48.

Dan Marino was once sacked 47 times -- over five seasons. This included ridiculous seasons like 1987 (sacked 9 times), 1988 (6 times), and 1989 (10 times).

Just think about that for a moment ... SIX sacks over an entire NFL season when he led the NFL with more than 600 pass attempts and over 4,400 yards passing.

43 posted on 12/13/2018 10:32:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Dan the Man!

44 posted on 12/13/2018 10:34:55 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Rummyfan

Never saw a QB with a quicker release.


45 posted on 12/13/2018 10:35:46 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: LeonardFMason
True. The only thing worse than tying up so much $$ in a QB would be making football contracts guaranteed like baseball. There are too many other pieces needed to complete a competitive team.

Draft a QB, buy him some premium toys and an aggressive defense and give him the 5 years to deliver. Once you pay the second contract, your future is limited.

46 posted on 12/13/2018 10:37:32 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: discostu

You sound like Wilson’s agent!


47 posted on 12/13/2018 10:37:50 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: 21twelve

I didn’t pick the QB comparison but the stats presented tell the story: Wilson is a pretty good QB not great but gets the job done, Cousins is a full fledged mediocrity.


48 posted on 12/13/2018 10:39:58 AM PST by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: Rummyfan

The guy set records for fewest sacks in a season even though he was one of the most immobile QBs in the NFL!


49 posted on 12/13/2018 10:41:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: RainMan

If it were just about having a franchise QB WHY does

Aaron Rodgers have ONE Super Bowl Win
Drew Brees have ONE Super Bowl Win
Russell Wilson ONE Super Bowl Win
Brett Favre ONE Super Bowl Win
(Dan Marino ZERO Super Bowls)

Same as:

Nick Foles
Joe Flacco
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Mark Rypien
Jeff Hostetler
Doug Williams

Granted 12 QB have won multiple times for 32 Super Bowl titles.

But 20 QB have won ONE Super Bowl.

ODDS are better with franchise QB. MUCH better still with a strong balanced team.


50 posted on 12/13/2018 10:46:27 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Alberta's Child

Dan Marino...good QB, nice guy. Same vein as Phillip Rivers.
Close but no cigar. Drew Brees is the man. Aaron Rodgers will be remembered as a great backup.


51 posted on 12/13/2018 10:48:54 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Sgt_Schultze

The Phillies just paid $50,000,000.00 GUARANTEED for a 32 year old FADING star. If he blows his knee out in year one and never plays again they are obligated to pay him all $50,000,000.00. It is insane.

That is baseball! Where fatigue is more an issue than injury. If the NFL guaranteed contracts it would bankrupt them.


52 posted on 12/13/2018 10:51:56 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: sanjuanbob

AR is much more important to them then that coach who was not making the best use of him.


53 posted on 12/13/2018 11:04:52 AM PST by Borges
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To: sanjuanbob; discostu
Aaron Rodgers will be remembered as a great backup.

Aaron Rogers will be remembered as the QB with the highest QBR in NFL history. Considering how long he's been playing that's amazing. Right there with Drew Brees and Tom Brady.
54 posted on 12/13/2018 11:07:26 AM PST by Borges
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To: discostu

It’s amazing how many coaches across many sports employ this strategy—and it turns a lot of comfortable wins into nail-biting wins, or losses.

My philosophy has always been to never let up—even when you’re comfortably ahead—until there is absolutely no chance for the other team to come back. Using the assumption that your opponent will score on all of their possessions and you will not score on any of yours, playing safe ball is not advisable until the other team has fewer potential possessions left than it would take to score enough to win the game.

It’s not perfect but it works a lot better than just trying to run out the clock.


55 posted on 12/13/2018 11:08:54 AM PST by Dexter Morgan ("MSNBC News? Appalling. Appalling and amateurish. So both at the same time; it's a bad combination.")
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To: sanjuanbob
No way.

Drew Brees has been putting up inflated numbers in a pass-oriented NFL these days.

Dan Marino was passing for 4,000+ yards at a time when a QB with a 3,000-yard passing season was considered an All-Pro candidate.

P.S. -- This is what makes Joe Namath's 1967 season perhaps the greatest ever for a QB. He passed for over 4,000 yards in a season when only two other NFL quarterbacks even passed for 3,000 ... and he was 700 yards ahead of the #2 QB.

56 posted on 12/13/2018 11:11:01 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: N. Theknow
"How many busts have they had since they came into the league

Better question:"How many good QBs have they had since they came into the league."

Answer: Exactly one (1)... (F.T.)

57 posted on 12/13/2018 11:11:11 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Borges

“Aaron Rogers will be remembered as the QB with the highest QBR in NFL history”

And Danica Patrick will be remembered as the first woman driver in NASCAR history.


58 posted on 12/13/2018 11:12:45 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Red Badger

What is with the Cheathawks comment? When have they cheated.


59 posted on 12/13/2018 11:14:54 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: sanjuanbob

Being the first ever to do something isn’t the same as being the best ever to do something. No one in NFL history has played QB better AND more consistently than AR.


60 posted on 12/13/2018 11:14:59 AM PST by Borges
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