[BigEdLB]

I think both sides of the rape/invest issue have different frames of reference. They will never come to an understanding. I understand the need for rape/incest exceptions, and all the somber stories about raped women having their child is not going to change the mind of a woman who feels she can’t carry the child as a result of rape. Tomi is correct, in this case the woman may well result to an unsafe method to abort. Rape and incest exceptions need to be included. SCOTUS can still come to a desirable conclusion.

[C210N]

Under the premise that Rape & incest (R&I) was used to crack open Pandora’s box, pave the way for Roe: Perhaps to close the box back, we need to go back in steps, to where R&I abortions are still legal, and the momentum of closing helps close Pandora’s completely.

But, any abortion where the mortal health of the mom is not at high risk, is still murder of an innocent human.

We, as a society kill based on assuming innocence, DNA evidence, providing a lawyer, having a trial, with a jury.

For the pre-born, we assume guilt, no lawyer provided, no trial. The “woman and her doctor” are judge, jury and executioner all in one.

[Alberta's Child]

Rape and incest exceptions need to be included. SCOTUS can still come to a desirable conclusion.

That's a political consideration that would never hold up under any legitimate system of law. The law doesn't allow for selective victimization of people, and if an unborn child is recognized as a person then what you're proposing can't stand up to any legal scrutiny.

Is five year-old child subject to less protection under the law than his "normal" peers just because his father was a rapist?

[rolling_stone]

scotus conclusion should be it is up to individual states as the constitution requires. pre roe v wade there were certain states, calif and new york as well as foreign countries where abortion was legal..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States

[precisionshootist]

"I think both sides of the rape/invest issue have different frames of reference. They will never come to an understanding. I understand the need for rape/incest exceptions, and all the somber stories about raped women having their child is not going to change the mind of a woman who feels she can’t carry the child as a result of rape. Tomi is correct, in this case the woman may well result to an unsafe method to abort. Rape and incest exceptions need to be included. SCOTUS can still come to a desirable conclusion."

I understand the rape issue but in the end it's either murder or it isn't. If Roe was overturned and the only thing left was the rape exception there is going to be a whole lot of men facing rape charges. Murder is wrong no matter the circumstance so in the end there can be no exceptions.

[SauronOfMordor]

For it to count as rape, I would want there to be a police report on file, soon after the sex.

For incest, I would want the perp named before, genetic test after, and arrest for perjury if it turns out not to be incest.