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Windmills vs. Nuclear Energy: Thorium reactors are a whole different game
American Thinker ^ | 06/04/2019 | Jon N. Hall

Posted on 06/04/2019 7:29:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/04/2019 10:13:39 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: dsrtsage

Why do the eco-nuts who propose these murdering monstrosities despise Mother Earth? Isn’t the a tad of irony here? What idiots.


21 posted on 06/04/2019 8:25:38 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: gibsonguy

But it doesn’t.
All it does is shift which traits are most important for survival.


22 posted on 06/04/2019 8:28:01 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gen 1 and Gen2 nuclear are unsafe. Gen 1 doesn’t exist anywhere anymore. Gen 3 has never had an incident and is safe. Gen 4 is even safer and can’t meltdown and can consume other waste from Gen2 and 3. Nuclear IS the future, but will America be part of it?


23 posted on 06/04/2019 8:41:03 AM PDT by MTsumi
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To: dsrtsage

Interesting side note: there’s a lot of thorium in the mine tailings for rare earth elements. Mildly radioactive tailings are a problem for US producers, not so much for the Chinese. Thorium reactors could change the equation, make the tailings valuable.


24 posted on 06/04/2019 9:54:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RayChuang88

Chernobyl was designed like a bomb. It had a positive feedback “feature”, meaning that in an loss of control as the reactor core got hotter and more water turned into steam the number of nuclear reactions actually increased, leading to an actual nuclear explosion, which is what happened.

American and all other countries reactors were designed to shut down the nuclear reaction (negative feedback) in case of loss of control. That is why 3 mile Island was so mild compared to Chernobyl.

https://amp-livescience-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.livescience.com/65618-are-chernobyl-style-reactors-still-operating-safe.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.livescience.com%2F65618-are-chernobyl-style-reactors-still-operating-safe.html


25 posted on 06/04/2019 9:56:17 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: volunbeer
"If this is true, why not?"

Because thorium is still fission, and the problem of what to do with the radwaste still exists. Thorium isn't the panacea it is being sold as. (Note...I took my minor courses on my way to my chemistry PhD in nuclear chem...this was in the days when fission reactors looked like THE answer). Unfortunately, the KGB-funded green movement won that propaganda war and killed the US civilian atomic power effort (precisely as intended).

26 posted on 06/04/2019 9:56:57 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
"...46 square miles rendered lifeless in order to protect the environment."

Oh, bull-bleep. The land under and around the windmills is still perfectly usable. The cattle probably enjoy the whooshing sound of the windmill blades, and the corn and wheat don't care.

27 posted on 06/04/2019 10:00:05 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

No, Chernobyl and TMI, except for both being nuclear power plants, were completely different in design and cause.

Chernobyl was destroyed by operator error at the end of reactor testing where the procedure was willfully violated. A steam explosion caused by prompt criticality blew the top of the reactor off.

TMI happened due to a reactor scram, followed by a normal lifting of a steam relief valve on the pressurizer that did NOT reseat, resulting in a sustained loss of coolant/cooling to the reactor core. Operator error played its part in that coolant injection was secured despite indications requiring it to remain in operation. Without cooling, the core was exposed and melted.


28 posted on 06/04/2019 10:00:39 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: cuban leaf

Approximately ten years ago there was a big whoopdedoo when Saudi Arabia announced interest in a grid of thorium reactors that were to be supplied (as I recall) by Japan. I have waited, but no longer hold my breath.


29 posted on 06/04/2019 10:46:27 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: aquila48

I wouldn’t call it a nuclear explosion. The Chernobyl explsion was more like the world’s biggest “dirty bomb” going off (it was a conventional explosion that spread a lot of radioactive fallout around).


30 posted on 06/04/2019 10:47:16 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: aquila48

Yes, the RBMK reactor at Chernobyl had a fairly big positive void coefficient (horrible design). Whereas BWR and PWR designs in the U.S. have a negative void coefficient. Since the water in BWR and PWR reactors act as the moderator, the more steam there is, the less neutrons get slowed down, and the reactivity dives south.


31 posted on 06/04/2019 10:52:49 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: RayChuang88

Maybe, maybe not.

https://www.sciencealert.com/report-analysis-steam-explosion-cause-of-chernobyl-disaster-wrong


32 posted on 06/04/2019 10:56:14 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: SeekAndFind

Watch the seried “Occupied.”


33 posted on 06/04/2019 11:00:38 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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BOOKbump


34 posted on 06/04/2019 1:57:24 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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To: SeekAndFind

wind farms are a sure fire investment and essentially cash machines for the elites.

Goverment subsidies to build, gvoerment forces the utilities to buy the product whether needed or not.

The consumenr gets hit with taxs fees and uncertain electricity production.

Whats not to like?

The Norweign series OCCUPIED discusses Thiorum generators.

Hell even the Scandinavians think it is a good idea.


35 posted on 06/05/2019 5:05:49 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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