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It’s Official: The M.B.A. Degree Is In Crisis
Forbes ^ | 08/23/2019 | John Byrne

Posted on 08/23/2019 9:35:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

MBA graduates are having a hard time finding businesses that still need to be destroyed.


21 posted on 08/23/2019 10:26:53 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Exactly my plan. Told the wife teaching at the community college was my ‘semi-retirement’ plan. Still a few years away, but got my MBA online at Western Governors University. Work paid for it and it checks the ‘advanced degree’ box for raises and promotions.


22 posted on 08/23/2019 10:27:28 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: headstamp 2
Get rid of the “studies” programs.

THAT'S RAYCISS!

23 posted on 08/23/2019 10:29:58 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: voicereason

Exactly right. Especially if you have an undergrad degree in a technical field are are moving up the ladder where the MBA provided business/finance/marketing knowledge. Nothing more useless than a fresh-out-of-school MBA with no experience in anything. All they’re good for is spouting business school jargon and occupying space.


24 posted on 08/23/2019 10:30:10 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Truthoverpower

metallurgical engineering. Been good to me.


25 posted on 08/23/2019 10:37:49 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: Truthoverpower

About engineering degrees. In the early 70s when I left active duty to finish my degree, the hot degree was anything in engineering and yes, it was an actual discipline you had to learn and practice. Everyone was going for one of the engineering degrees. Three years later when I graduated most BS in engineering grads couldn’t find work selling themselves on street corners. There was a glut of engineers. Fortunately, my major was in a hard science and even then with the economy as it was, I opted for a military commission and ended up in strategic nuclear ops for the rest of my career.

Demands for various disciplines rise and fall over time.

While I generally don’t value an MBA any higher than a lot of other degrees, there will again be demand for fresh, newly minted corporate weasels. Just not right now.


26 posted on 08/23/2019 10:37:56 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SeekAndFind
My knee-jerk reaction:

You can earn an undergraduate degree without knowing anything useful.

A graduate degree requires that you actually know something and are willing to apply yourself. (note: the content may all be further indoctrination)

27 posted on 08/23/2019 10:38:21 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Veto!

I have to tell you, I see a lot of 23 to 35 year olds with an “environmental” science degree. Whatever that is.

It sounds like rec ed to me.


28 posted on 08/23/2019 10:59:49 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: tnlibertarian

Will the pay cover your travel and fuel costs?

instructors at our local community colleges make about 1200 per course.


29 posted on 08/23/2019 11:02:25 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Truthoverpower

Our last Washington state quarterly report for PE’s reported that ZERO people sat for the fall 2018 PE in civil engineering. In my 18 years since I became licensed, it averages about 560-600 applicants with a pass rate close to 65%.

It has become quite the topic for my circle of engineering friends and colleagues.


30 posted on 08/23/2019 11:09:48 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: SeekAndFind

They teach a few things in MBA school. But not many of the programs are of a high quality.
I have met dozens of MBAs who weren’t bright enough to get a Bachelors in Accounting. And an Engineering degree would be far beyond the reach of most of the ones I have encountered.
MBA from one of the top-20 schools excepted, I have never seen the “greatness” of an MBA degree.


31 posted on 08/23/2019 11:16:49 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Truthoverpower

My dad told me: Engineering,
There is always something that needs fixing, design or redesign.

Since 1982, I have been employed the entire time except for 3 months in ‘88 when I moved to CA and three months in 2014 when I took special training to improve my skill levels.

The downside is to really be good at it, you need to start early in basic problem solving.
By the time you hit High School, its usually way too late.
I was lucky.

Electronics, Petroleum and Chemical Engineering are the best.


32 posted on 08/23/2019 11:22:31 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: SeekAndFind

The guy who owns https://www.usdigital.com/ is the smartest, most honorable, decent, loving Christian man I have ever met. He has a High School degree.


33 posted on 08/23/2019 11:24:53 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: Veto!

MBA programs have been infested with the same Leftist values as all other higher education. It’s why corporations are so quick to fold when SJW’s raise a stink, and why a bunch of CEO’s just agreed that shareholder value should not be a corporation’s prime directive.


34 posted on 08/23/2019 11:57:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Newtoidaho

IMHO MBA programs also create a very dangerous type of groupthink. It helps to fuel panics, bubbles and busts.

It is safer for the economy if decision makers are coming from diverse backgrounds with various viewpoints.


35 posted on 08/23/2019 11:58:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

ALL colleges are dealing with a drop in enrollment due to LESS CHILDREN BEING BORN. Add in the marxist crap teaching, a better economy, sky-high tuition debt and it’s little wonder.


36 posted on 08/23/2019 12:54:59 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: IndispensableDestiny

You must remember when having MBA after one’s name meant having made loans to Mexico, Brazil and Argentina.
(lol)


37 posted on 08/23/2019 1:14:55 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: WASCWatch
He has a High School degree.

WOW!! A High School Degree!

When I graduated from high school (62) we only got diplomas.

38 posted on 08/23/2019 1:23:03 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: SeekAndFind

As someone who graduated from business school with an MBA almost 20 years ago, the problem with the degree is it often does not earn you the premium you paid to get it. You not only have to forego a year of income but you also have to pay in most cases, tens of thousands of dollars.

Then when you do hit the job market you see that people with much much cheaper qualifications like 6 sigma or for example a Project Management Professional (PMP) degree not only can get paid as much as you can, in plenty of cases, they are more in demand than you are with your MBA. Those degrees are a lot less time consuming, they do not require you to take a year or more off from work and if the rewards are going to be just as good or better, why bother getting an MBA?


39 posted on 08/23/2019 6:44:49 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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