Posted on 09/22/2019 4:04:02 PM PDT by robowombat
That deception will not wash, teppe. The Mormons tricked the wagon train into believing they were being taken hostage, then the Mormons murdered them all execution style, up close and personal. The only survivors of the wagom train were children so young they could not tell the truth of what happened.
Passions ran high in Mormon culture back then. Brigham Young had two guys, Hickman and Rockwell, who would disappear anyone who made Brigham unhappy.
Then Brigham drew a map of the Mountain West and declared a great big chunk of it a separate and sovereign country. The Feds sent the army out to abort that venture.
So along comes a wagon train of gentiles headed west and the locals saw it as an opportunity to get some revenge.
The definition of a Christian is a believer in the Christ, the Messiah, the second Person of the triune God, Emmanuel -—GOD with us, as revealed in the Holy Bible. The book of Mormon has some lovely passages in it, some of which are true, but anything in it that contradicts The Holy Bible, is a lie from the pit of Hell. If you recall, the Serpent in the Garden of Eden, spoke just enough truth to beguile Eve. That’s one of his specialties -— perverting the WORD of God. I don’t know if you are an adult convert, or were born into the Mormon church (in which case you have been indoctrinated from birth). In such a case, one could almost not blame you for your beliefs, but since the Holy Bible is readily available to you, and I assume you’ve read it, you are without excuse. Your eyes have been blinded, but if you diligently seek Him, through the Holy Bible, He will be found!
Are you acquainted with the Lorenzo Snow couplet? Is that god you are so close to, the one who was a man and had to earn godhood?
Look up The Hawn’s Mill Massacre and other ‘Christian’ acts toward Mormons before you speek about what early Saints went through.
Mountain Meadows was wrong, but your rendition of reasons is worse..
You’re not even a Christian, teppe, so how would you recognize one? Your Momron god had to earn godhoos Your false religion teaches that men can attain godhood, also and have their own planet and sire billions of children with their spirit wives. The Truth is not in you teppe.
There’s no such thing as a ‘ Genious ‘, dolt. And you’ve spelled it that way twice so far that I have seen. want to go for a third, genius?
… Captain Comstock, who previously had assured the Mormons at the mill of their safety, had returned the next day attacking them, saying he had received an order from Governor Boggs via Coronal Ashley
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Shortly before the massacre, anti-Mormon raiders confiscated gun and weapons from Mormon settlers and immigrants.[9] Some of those living in the surrounding area gathered to Hawn’s Mill for safety.
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On October 30 at approximately 4 p.m., the militia rode into the community. David Evans, a leader in the community, ran towards the militia, waving his hat and calling for peace. Alerted to the militia’s approach, most of the Latter-day Saint women and children fled into the woods to the south, while most of the men headed to the blacksmith shop. Unfortunately, the building was a particularly vulnerable structure as the widely spaced logs made it easy for the attackers to fire inside. The shop became a deathtrap, since the militia gave no quarter, discharging about 100 rifles into the building.[10] Grand River Township Justice of the Peace Thomas McBride, wounded while escaping the blacksmith shop, surrendered his gun to Jacob S Rogers Jr. who shot him, then hacked his body with a corn knife (scythe blade). According to their own account they fired seven rounds making upwards of 1,600 shots during the attack of Hawn’s Mill.[22] The attack lasted 30 to 60 minutes. The sun set at 5:16 p.m.[23]
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Members of the militia entered the shop and found 10-year-old Sardius Smith, 7-year-old Alma Smith (sons of Amanda Barnes Smith), and 9-year-old Charles Merrick hiding under the blacksmith’s bellows. Alma and Charles were shot (Charles later died), and a militia man known as “Glaze, of Carroll county”, killed Sardius when he “put his musket against Sardius’s skull and blew off the top of his head.”[24] Later, a William Reynolds would justify the killing by saying, “Nits will make lice, and if he had lived he would have become a Mormon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haun%27s_Mill_massacre
Ping
I spelled it purposefully that way to demonstrate that you are incapable of by-passing your religious-bigotry to looking beyond the obvious!
My case proven, you dolt!
News Flash! If I believe in Christ and you say I am not a Christian .... then .... neither are you!!!
Mathew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Your just a ‘Pharisee in Christian Clothing’!
Tell me, proy, how does the evil committed by the persecutors of the Mormons at Hawn’s Mill make okay the evil perpetrated against innocent wagon train travelers? Why would you try to make the comparison unless you are seeking to ease the evil at MMM? That is the tactic of moose limb murderers apologists!
LOL, so all your typos and spelling mistakes are little traps by your clever soul? LOL, typical ‘Momron’ apologetics.
There is no requirement that a Christian believe in Emperor Costantines dictated ‘homousis’ triune God.
Neither Origin nor Tertullian believed in the later concept of the Trinity (although Tertullian likely coined the term, he did not use it in a homousis manner) and both were Christian.
In-fact even Christ himself did not believe in the Trinity as evident in the bulk of biblical passages.
Yes, I also believe that there is much that God has not told mankind about himself or what has transpired. Why throw pearls before swine? Could you conceive of God having truths that you currently are not in possession of? I suppose that your religious-bigotry would not allow you to entertain that concept.
teppe, the god of your religion had to earn godhood. His son was sired by sexual intercourse. No, you are not believing and following Christ, you are following the fables from Joe Smith. IF you were a Christian you would awaken to the truth of the religion you’re defending and the lies and blasphemies therein. IF you were a born again member in God’s family He would not leave you in such heresy. Claiming to be a Christian with the Holy spirit seal upon your human spirit but really serving an antichrist religion is a sin against the Holy Spirit, taking the Lord’s name in vaine, teppe. It is heresy.
Deception? You mean suggesting that the simultaneous U.S. invasion on Utah may have something to do with a sense of panic by its people, and may have pushed some over the edge???
How brilliant of an analysis in not recognizing external factors due to extreme religious bigotry.
You really are a pharisee in Christian clothing!
Mormon men did it to take women
It’s not a new concepts
Massacre and take breeding stock
That’s how Mormonism spread so fast
Multiple wives and breed em
It worked
Utah has a plethora of good looking women
And what is essentially a state church
Just one man’s opinion
Other than Mormonism I like Mormons ....a lot actually
Mormonism I find troubling if I’m honest with myself
Doesn’t mean I can’t just accept that peacefully
It’s not to late for you to repent either since you also believe in the lie that Jesus Christ was speaking to himself on the cross when he stated ‘Father why has thou forsaken me’.
If you believe in God and sincerely ask Him to reveal himself to you, H will. Through his word and the power of the Holy Ghost.
Our God does not have a three-way personality crisis! Jesus Christ is the literal Son of the Almighty God! Repent of the Heresy that became the non-biblical creeds!
Believe in the Word of God....reject the Creeds of Man!
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