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Question: Does the so-called whistle-blower protection law override the constitution?

Posted on 09/26/2019 11:15:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Go-around to the whistle-blower sources.


21 posted on 09/26/2019 11:48:33 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Another day younger and wiser.)
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To: samadams2000

Looks like that is what it will take. And I’m in even if I have to hitchhike...

Or... Everyone could buy a $300 junker car and all show up on the same day and just dump them everywhere and hike out fouling the whole thing up. A very effective non-violent example of opposition.

That would be a point made that CANNOT be ignored... It would get their attention because it could happen again if and when wanted.


22 posted on 09/26/2019 11:49:06 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

LOL....you’ve got your thinking cap on!


23 posted on 09/26/2019 11:50:06 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The whistle blower isn’t. Hearsay. So not covered. Also the law only applies to people UTA “Under the Authority” of. The President is not part of the Intel Community.


24 posted on 09/26/2019 11:52:41 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Roccus

Constitution???

What Constitution?

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We don’t need no stinking constitution.

I agree with whistleblower protections, TBH. The spirit of them is a valid one.

But when the letter of the protections are used as a wildcard in the poker game that is the legislative branch abandoning it’s leglislative functions in favor of bastardizing it’s oversight roles in order to blitz-harass the executive branch endlessly, then no, those protections are not and should not be in-any-way absolute.


25 posted on 09/26/2019 11:53:57 AM PDT by z3n
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To: samadams2000

Didn’t the federal Gov just reinstate the Death Penalty???


26 posted on 09/26/2019 11:54:04 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Jim Robinson

NO.

Next question.


27 posted on 09/26/2019 11:54:36 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, that right applies if they are charged in a court of law. If you just want to lynch someone in the media, I don’t think the victim gets to invoke it.


28 posted on 09/26/2019 11:56:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Jim Robinson

If you are telling about some event or conversation you are not privy to, I believe that is hearsay, and I don’t believe hearsay is admissible as evidence in a criminal proceeding. My suspicion is that this person is not a whistleblower because they are not reporting on a matter they have personal knowledge of. They seem to me like a person who is acting on rumor.


29 posted on 09/26/2019 12:00:36 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Free the Russia investigation documents)
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To: Jane Long

Even if they knew ahead of time how are they going to stop it all? They can’t... they would be helpless against it and it will shut them down to caveman status for weeks. :)

“And you got off easy this time, next time we bring guns with us”... Will be a statement very seriously considered and respected from that point on for the next 50 years at least.


30 posted on 09/26/2019 12:02:50 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Jim Robinson

It is important to protect whistleblowers because they have to be in a position to be able to offer evidence that is of value. Just being some a-hole with a suspicion is not the same thing as being a whistleblower. There has to be some sort of relevant evidence that these people have that will make a powerful person very uncomfortable.


31 posted on 09/26/2019 12:13:32 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Free the Russia investigation documents)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nancy only recognizes the Constitution if it helps a dim, so in this case, the answer must be YES.

The Constitution is only to be trotted out by the dims when they can beat a pubbie over the head with it.


32 posted on 09/26/2019 12:14:33 PM PDT by Lakeside Granny ( God's Word says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you..." Jeremiah 1:5))
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To: Jim Robinson

Federalist No. 70 (1788)

In this Federalist Paper, Alexander Hamilton argues for a strong executive leader, as provided for by the Constitution, as opposed to the weak executive under the Articles of Confederation. He asserts, “energy in the executive is the leading character in the definition of good government.

Federalist No. 70 argues in favor of the unitary executive created by Article II of the United States Constitution. According to Alexander Hamilton, a unitary executive is necessary to: ensure accountability in government. enable the president to defend against legislative encroachments on his power.


33 posted on 09/26/2019 12:15:08 PM PDT by STARLIT (Hope is standing in the dark looking out at the light in Jesus Christ.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Short answer, “No. This is not a trial. It is an anonymous tip to the cops.”


34 posted on 09/26/2019 12:15:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t think it matters if whistleblower protections override the constitution since however often everyone is repeating it, this person is NOT a whistleblower.


35 posted on 09/26/2019 12:16:11 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Free the Russia investigation documents)
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To: BlackAdderess
this person is NOT a whistleblower

He is a CIA partisan, like Brennan, who hates Trump and is willing to use the Intelligence community and contacts for partisan gain.

36 posted on 09/26/2019 12:17:40 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Gahanna Bob
-- The "whistleblower" may have protection but his/her sources will not. --

It's even better. The whistleblower gets protection by statutory law. If the complaint is not inside the statutory framework, the DNI and ICIG cannot give the protection that is inside the whistleblower framework.

This complaint has already been formally testined by the legal authority, the DOJ, and found to be outside of whistleblower jurisdiction.

Not even the whistelblower is entitled to protection. They will likely litigate that if charged, and who knows what a judge will rule. This would be a good trial case.

37 posted on 09/26/2019 12:19:07 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: be-baw
Fox News reported that NYT reported that it was a CIA officer with experience working with Ukraine.

Lemme see if I've got this right.

Fox reports that the NYTimes reported that a CIA officer reported, via "whistleblower" complaint, what WH officials had reportedly been told what President Trump was overheard to have said in the phone call.

Is that it?

38 posted on 09/26/2019 12:19:16 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: 1Old Pro

I think that calling this person a whistleblower is the first mistake rather than pushing back on that.


39 posted on 09/26/2019 12:22:48 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Free the Russia investigation documents)
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To: BlackAdderess

I agree with you.

Who gave this person who leaks hearsay “whistle-blower” status anyway?

I demand to know who were the 12 so called “concerned” WH people who illegally leaked to this so called “whistle-blower!!”


40 posted on 09/26/2019 12:28:34 PM PDT by Lakeside Granny ( God's Word says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you..." Jeremiah 1:5))
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