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Open Offices Are a Capitalist Dead End: One story from WeWork’s inevitable blow-up [tr]
NY Times ^ | September 25, 2019 | Farhad Manjoo

Posted on 09/30/2019 12:36:38 PM PDT by C19fan

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To: wally_bert

“The new building has an open office plan and I am amazed that those people function at all. Noise and people walking through all the time.”

Not just that, but how are you supposed to lurk and comment in Freerepublic with all those people next to you!?


21 posted on 09/30/2019 2:11:11 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: aquila48

Around that area, probably not going to happen.

There is talk of moving all the finance, MIS, paper shufflers, and the like up there when more money comes in to duplicate the open office on the second floor.


22 posted on 09/30/2019 2:17:59 PM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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To: socalgop

Allowances and costs can run the gamut, no matter what size the tenant; lots of variables go into the equation. I represent tenants in the office market and I’m typically able to secure strong allowances from the LL. It does take an experienced advocate to max out incentives, no matter the size of the tenant.

Anchor tenants generally have strong financials and that’s a motivating factor for LL’s to give more in TI’s, free rent, etc. but it’s not exclusive to the big tenants.


23 posted on 09/30/2019 2:19:27 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: wally_bert

I’m currently working in an open office environment. The entire facility was recently built by a major corporation with a very recognizable name.

Your workspace is roughly a five foot desk with a couple drawers, a phone, monitor(s) and your docking station. Everything is wide open. I have no place for a white board, to tack up a note - nada. It’s all to enhance “collaboration”. Much more annoying, and less productive than a cubicle imho.


24 posted on 09/30/2019 2:26:47 PM PDT by CTyank
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To: chrisser

The only science that supports the open or “agile” office plan is the science of stuffing more people into a smaller area. My old company went that way after I retired. People hate it. Many very senior developers quit. It is a disaster. I am glad I did not get caught up in it.


25 posted on 09/30/2019 2:35:29 PM PDT by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: Skywise

They are too noisy. I have co-workers who talk and talk.... loudly.


26 posted on 09/30/2019 3:28:06 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: fruser1

Depends on the type of smoke..


27 posted on 09/30/2019 3:30:26 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (available monkeys looking for the change..)
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To: fruser1

It was indeed a great day when the reeking stench of tobacco smoke was banished from public spaces.


28 posted on 09/30/2019 3:45:45 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: chrisser
'Twas ever thus...


29 posted on 09/30/2019 3:55:49 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: C19fan

bump


30 posted on 10/01/2019 7:16:32 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: spacejunkie2001

If the founder did not disclose to his investors that he held ownership in buildings WeWork leased from, he should go to jail.


31 posted on 10/01/2019 7:18:50 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (People have a sex, not a gender. Things have a gender. Take back the language.)
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To: Alberta's Child
In my industry, a WeWork address simply conveys a message of a third-rate, non-serious operation.

Yes, it's like when you ask them for an e-mail address and get "jsmith @aol.com." :)

32 posted on 10/01/2019 7:20:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

100% agree. is that what happened? I haven’t read everything about them. just another pie in the sky entity that people fawn over only to find out there’s no there there.


33 posted on 10/01/2019 7:56:31 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: fruser1
I’ve noticed in many old movies and shows there were offices with open floor plans, usually with managers’ private offices surrounding the open floor filled with desks. I thought cubicles were more of a modern thing.

Open Office circa 1950s


34 posted on 10/01/2019 8:04:31 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Hillary Clinton: Just like Joe with only half the dementia.)
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