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The Tipping System Is Immoral (Leave 30%)
New York Times ^ | 10/24/2019 | David Brooks

Posted on 10/25/2019 8:31:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

Garter belts and generosity go together


21 posted on 10/25/2019 8:44:29 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: mkleesma

I agree, even a place with a modest priced menu, if it is busy, there is no reason you shouldn’t be making a few hundred bucks a night as long as the place isn’t dead. I don’t know how many tables a typical waiter or waitress services, but if you assume 4 tables an hour, with a typical bill of $40-$50.. and average of 15% tip, you are going to make a few hundred bucks in an 8 hours shift.

I assume they typically handle more than 4 tables an hour.


22 posted on 10/25/2019 8:44:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Responsibility2nd

When I was a poor student in Boston, I got a job as a waiter and then several jobs as a bartender.

The only racism I ever saw was from groups of blacks, of any class, none of whom would tip.

I knew this, but provided great serve to anyone, but other waiters would do anything to avoid waiting on tables with blacks.

So, yes, there is some racism going on. But it’s because of certain social behaviors of groups.


23 posted on 10/25/2019 8:44:37 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Tip 20.


24 posted on 10/25/2019 8:45:07 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Brooks is supposed to be what passes for a “conservative” at the New York Times (and also NPR, until they managed to get Never-Trumper radio talker Charlie Sykes).

Brooks got his start by successfully begging William F. Buckley for a job as a senior at U of Chicago when I was a freshman (Buckley visited the campus). What a phony.


25 posted on 10/25/2019 8:47:33 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Sutor, ne ultra crepidam--Appelles of Kos)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s certainly what I thought as a bartender.
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Like Almost Occasionally Coherent, he should have stuck with that.


26 posted on 10/25/2019 8:47:48 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The 30 people who read Brooks column can tip 30-50%.

The waiters at the big steakhouse in Chicago, Gibson’s, Chicago Prime, etc. make $100,000 to $150,000 a year in tips. Not sure what they report to the IRS.


27 posted on 10/25/2019 8:48:21 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Responsibility2nd

TIP = To Insure Promptness


28 posted on 10/25/2019 8:48:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Exactly.

I factor 15 percent of the bill as a minimum tip. I also consider that the waiter usually spends less than 5 minutes total on my table from the time I sit down to the time I leave.

If I even leave $5.00 - that is damn good money for an unskilled job.


29 posted on 10/25/2019 8:48:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Jewbacca

Any remember the ethnicity of the folks in McDonald’s legendary “no tipping” ad?


30 posted on 10/25/2019 8:49:26 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Responsibility2nd

A few years back I was spending as much as 1500-2000 per month on food and drink at establishments. But, I’ve cut it back to about 500.

Restaurants and Bars seem a feeling of entitlement to a tip without necessarily providing good service or products.

Due to labor laws, the cost of eating out is prohibitively expensive. I can eat at home for a whopping difference of 65% less cost.

And, the quality of food is getting worse. Nothing worse than paying too much for a sub standard product!


31 posted on 10/25/2019 8:49:37 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Responsibility2nd
Rush Limbaugh is a glorious hero of the revolution.

Some lefty writer wrangled a lunch interview with Rush, and afterwards insisted on paying. Rush would hear none of it. Finally he agreed to let the writer leave the tip.

The writer noticed how officious the staff was to the table, and put down a “generous” tip. Only later did he learn that the staff was expecting Rush’s standard tip of $1000 . . .

Actually, that’s about what Frank Sinatra did - his standard tip was $100. But that was back when $100 dollars was, you know, actual money. Back when $5 was enough for a meal for 3 at a roadside restaurant, and you got change at the supermarket if you tendered $20 for a week’s groceries.


32 posted on 10/25/2019 8:49:41 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Jewbacca

I start at 20% and go either up or down depending on the dining experience we receive from the wait staff.


33 posted on 10/25/2019 8:49:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Tipping 30-50% will likely reduce a waiter’s pay. If a $50 meal suddenly costs $65-$75, plus tax, there will be fewer people ordering meals. Fewer diners means fewer tabs, fewer tabs means fewer tips and, ultimately, fewer waiters as the restaurant’s volume diminishes.


34 posted on 10/25/2019 8:50:17 AM PDT by PUGACHEV (Pires)
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To: Responsibility2nd

30 to 50? Oh, hell no. Basic to me is 20. If service is not good, it goes down to 15. If service is great, 25. Amazing service might get me to 30, but that’s it.


35 posted on 10/25/2019 8:51:17 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Responsibility2nd

30 to 50%?! When did that happen?

15% is standard tip, 20% if service is exceptional.


36 posted on 10/25/2019 8:51:21 AM PDT by con-surf-ative
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To: Responsibility2nd

Having been a ‘server’ at one point in my life, I do not ‘tip’ every time. I know bad service and bad wait staff, and I know the kitchen is sometimes the culprit, not the server. I tip 15% and sometimes 20% if the service is really good....................


37 posted on 10/25/2019 8:52:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: HangnJudge
I’m kinda a Ramon Noodles and Beefaroni type myself

Snob.

:-D

38 posted on 10/25/2019 8:53:25 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Notice all the ASSumptions he makes. In your quote, he assumes “you” the restaurant customer enjoy “advantages”. Gee, how many of those advantaged customers ARE also waiters, and other minimum-wage laborers and cashiers? Does this jerk really think MW-type workers do NOT go to restaurants to get some food?


39 posted on 10/25/2019 8:53:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No one leaves 30-50% regularly.

This guy is an idiot and a liar


40 posted on 10/25/2019 8:54:07 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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