Posted on 01/18/2020 12:52:35 PM PST by yesthatjallen
Thanks for usable link.
I’ve heard there is many more angles that the cruise line wont share at this time.
With kid out there for 30 seconds there must be outside views too.
“The family sued Royal Caribbean”
Of course they did
I bet mimosas played a part in this.
AFTER HALF A MINUTE! The dude must go to jail for at least a year + one, mini-security fine whatever, but he was criminally negligent.
Boy all the facts really need to be known on this one.
Any signs of dementia or mental illness? Was he afraid to yell for help?
I just feel terrible for the parents.
He was definitely to blame. He lied about the window and not being able to tell if it was open or closed. He leaned out for quite a while then picked up the child and hung her out the window.
“I wonder if he was also lying to the child’s parents about what he actually did?”
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For sure, he was lying to his daughter about her daughter’s death.
Mom was suing because she believed the Cruise ship had faulty safety issues and believed the Cruise ship company was making excuses.
She never knew her father actually held the girl outside the window.
What the grandfather didn’t know was Cruise ships usually have CCTV all over the place.
Thankfully, it was on film.
This will change the dynamics of the father/daughter relationship. Perhaps even the mother/daughter and grandmother’s relationship with her husband. Knowing he was responsible for the death of her granddaughter and then lying about it.....? Got to be a terrible feeling.
Very weird.. Does the grandfather have dementia?
thanks for the link.
“AFTER HALF A MINUTE! The dude must go to jail for at least a year + one, mini-security fine whatever, but he was criminally negligent.’
I don’t disagree at all.
I just don’t think the guy was malicious. He should go to jail for a long time. Manslaughter not murder
The think that this video clearly shows is that he followed his granddaughter to the window, but then he alone leaned out the open window, and pretty far out the window so he was certainly aware, contrary to what he’s said about not knowing the window was open but also aware of the height and the drop. After leaning out the window, he reaches down and picks her up and holds her out of the open window for some time before, it almost seems to me he stumbles or falls, loses his balance, and drops her.
There may be other angles but I think they will all show the same thing.
At first I believed the grandfather and it was an accident and maybe he didn't realize the window was open. However holding the child in front of an open window for 30 seconds and not realizing the window was open, to me, raises serious questions.
Not surprising. I’ve been on enough cruise ships to know that the scenario the family described sounded highly unlikely.
He had no reason for holding that infant out of a window for any length of time, game or no. He was under no compulsion or threat to do such a thing. He knew how high the window was from the concrete and the consequences of a fall if his grasp was released. I hope serves a terminally long jail sentence.
Grandpa is a flat out liar! and IF he has a mental illness or dementia, then his family that allowed him to be alone with the kid is guilty also.
wth is wrong with people.
Oh my. Even sadder story than I thought upon first hearing of it.
More than 30 seconds out that window doesn't suggest, it flatly states that Papi got his rocks off on abusing the kids.
We've all known the type -- Curmudgeon Gramps -- but 99% of them go the W.C. Fields route and confine the abuse to nasty comments about kids doing kid stuff.
Then there's the 1% who pinch the kids until they leave a mark, or tickle after it's no longer fun, or worse -- just goddamn mean old sods.
It means something to me because my GP was my hero, and everyone should have a GP just like that.
That is news. I felt bad for the man, but if there is proof that he hung the kid out the window...he needs to go to prison.
Murder
Was alcohol involved?... No. The child was sober.
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