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To: Robert DeLong

The disease has an established case fatality rate of 2%, and is so contagious everyone will probably encounter it after a year or so. Potentially one in fifty Americans, or about six million, Americans alone, dying seems like a big thing to me, but maybe not to others, I guess.


47 posted on 03/01/2020 9:24:01 PM PST by AnonymousConservative
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To: AnonymousConservative
Your assumption is that the infection rate will continue year round, but that has not been the case with any corona virus to date.

Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) was a viral respiratory disease of zoonotic origin caused by the SARS coronavirus. Between November 2002 and July 2003, an outbreak of SARS in southern China caused an eventual 8,098 cases, resulting in 774 deaths reported in 17 countries, with the majority of cases in mainland China and Hong Kong. A death rate at about 9 percent to 12 percent of those who were diagnosed.

MERS-CoV was first identified in a patient in Saudi Arabia in 2012. As with SARS, the disease looks like severe pneumonia; with MERS, patients also have gastrointestinal symptoms, and sometimes experience kidney failure. Since 2012, 27 countries have reported cases, with 2,494 people confirmed infected and 858 dead, mostly in Saudi Arabia. All cases of MERS, the CDC stipulates, have been linked back to people who live in or have traveled to the Arabian Peninsula.

The WHO reports that about 35 percent of MERS-infected people have died, with health care workers at highest risk—though, since MERS can also result in such mild symptoms that a person may have it without knowing it, that death rate is almost certainly inflated.

Currently the death rate for this coronavirus is about 3.5%, with 89,073 infected resulting in 3,046 reported deaths. With the overwhelming numbers in China itself. But what percentage of those deaths were of people who had underlying conditions to begin with? These viruses are going to affect those with deficient immune systems much more severely than those with more robust immune systems. The fact that this corona virus has the same symptoms as the flu means that a lot of people probably did not seek medical attention until it became absolutely necessary to do so, thereby providing time to spread the disease more. So initial blush is to believe there is a rapid spread occurring, when the spread my have started earlier then we think.

At any rate it is really far too early to know exactly how bad this is, but the numbers really do not warrant the hysteria being generated. Is it something to be aware of, absolutely, and unless you live under a rock, I think that awareness exists in spades.

All you are providing is wild claims that really have no basis in reality. So far about 10,00 lives in America alone have been taken by the flu season, but I don't hear the panic with regards to that. The CDC estimates the impact from this flu season will be 32,000,000 – 45,000,000 flu illnesses, 14,000,000 – 21,000,000 flu medical visits, 310,000 – 560,000 flu hospitalizations, resulting in 18,000 – 46,000 flu deaths, and that is just in the U.S.

51 posted on 03/01/2020 11:10:12 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: AnonymousConservative

Except it doesn’t have an established mortality of 2%. But, hey, why let facts get in the way for fear mongering.


56 posted on 03/02/2020 1:32:08 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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