Posted on 04/03/2020 5:27:03 PM PDT by Crucial
Dr. Fauci has recently stated that he doesn't know why all states don't have stay at home orders.If the purpose of stay at home orders is to keep covid-19 from spreading, then this is probably the wrong time to institute them.
Right now the weather is warming up. The best thing we can do is get people away from each other and away from the indoor germ breeding ground. It seems to me what we are doing is continuing to incubate the virus in hundreds of thousands of households. If it were winter, I know there would be little choice.
And I heard dr Fauci say we will win this when there are zero infections and zero deaths. That will never happen.
for some places it may make sense.
higher population density cities that are experiencing a lot of cases, limiting exposure is probably helpful.
less population dense spaces with few or no cases, probably not so helpful.
Winning had better be WAYYY before that. We are never there for ANY illness, not even a cold.
If stay at home is necessary,shut down state borders!! We fly over states will linger longer due to everyone escaping their urban Utopias.
Of course they aren’t. Stay at home orders need to be given when people are already doing them themselves. If there’s no cases in a county, what’s going to happen there? Most people are going to rightly say ‘this is bull’ and go out anyway.
We’re probably a month or two ahead of stay at home orders. That said, a 3% infection rate is the event horizon, NYC Metro is reporting .5% (with lack of testing) which probably equates to the horizon. The NYC Metro area should be on stay at home.
The testing is a relatively big issue that really needs to be addressed (Hey, California, pointing right at you dude, so put down that reefer and the board and turn that hat back around.) State department of health laws requiring testing being done in a state approved lab, even for informative and not diagnostic testing, is the problem here. State labs are close to two weeks behind. Quite a few will be dead before their labs come back.
Also really would have loved to see some guidelines from Washington DC on testing to not only overrule local rules about requiring diagnostic testing, but also protecting those being tested. Right now, there’s little stopping informative test sites from harvesting DNA at the same time to add to their databases.
So yep, we’re early. We have no standard for when it ends, and come when we REALLY need it (late fall), hopefully the second wave won’t be as bad as I fear it will be.
The only problem is that we have had a lot of visitors, hikers, rock climbers, etc., camping out in our rural mountain resort area. No corona virus cases here until the visitors started shopping in our markets, now we have eight cases of corona virus here.
Metro, Metro China Virus
I wonder if those models account for large apartment buildings with co-mingling ventilation, and other types of things that would make stay-at-home orders a deadly thing to do for some percentage of the populace.
Dr Fauxcy needs to get out of DC more.
He’s totally gone over the edge and needs to be ignored.
Fauci is an old man (79 years old) who has been director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease for 36 years.
36 years in charge of our government’s institute overseeing infectious diseases. That’s a long time.
If anyone is to blame who might that be?
Until the vaccine and significant herd immunity, we're going to need 100's of millions of quick tests / month.
I'd be a lot cheaper than continuing to keep the economy on hold [in gaol, hoosegow, up teh river, klink, etc].
If states had focused first on testing, then on panic, we’d be in a completely different scenario right now.
Where we’re at? Stay at home until mid-summer, probably, and even then... Yeah, it’s going to be a mess, people are going to get really angry really quickly. That things haven’t already degraded is, in my opinion, just blind luck.
Don’t think we’ll remain that lucky for long though.
Testing though, you'll find his name all over reports suggesting that quick and through testing is the only way to track infectious disease progress.
This is all on our politicians trying to emulate communist China. And you can see how many of them LOVE the power it gives them.
Now, once you got those stupid orders in place - Fauci’s name is all over the place saying maintain them until the threat has passed.
We're seriously in uncharted territory here. Once governors went the China route, yeah, what can you do as a business? Open yourself to liability if someone can prove they caught the disease at your place of business you kept open in defiance of the governor's order? Or recommendations?
Papers discussing Coronavirus, temperature and humidity: The Effects of Temperature and Relative Humidity on the Viability of the SARS Coronavirus
Not peer reviewed yet: High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19
Short version: A few warm days will not be enough to stop it.
Yes, though most everyone works around the orders. It slows things down though traffic in my area is the same as normal.
The largest thing slowing people’s circulation is the closing of retail and bars.
If you have an ‘essential’ reason to be out, you can be out. And everyone has one or more, and often.
We have to pivot to letting the vulnerable [I likely fall in this group] self-hunker and all others go free by May 1 or perish as a society.
Now you’re getting technical and that requires more thought than has probably been given to the problem by the politicians.
The low humidity areas of the US seem to be less infected.
The counties with big name ski resorts have seen yuge, similar outbreaks that continue after skiing was shut down early and the out-of-towners sent home..
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