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To: DoughtyOne

They’re not STAYING at home.

The day after ‘we’ locked down, the parking lot at the local walmart was totally full, cars parked up and down the road. More than black friday even. Giant gaggles of people milling around in the parking lot.

Turns out, with nothing ELSE to do (because it was all closed down) whole families hopped into the conveyance of choice and headed to walmart. To socialize with hundreds of their nearest and dearest.

We have a neighbor that has made 2 or 3 trips EVERY SINGLE DAY to go somewhere. Walmart, drugstore, hardware store, sonic, drive thru, grocery store. She literally can’t stay home for more than a cpl daylight hours.

Neighbor on the other side had a family reunion the weekend of Easter. We didn’t notice a smaller than normal crowd this year.

When people say ‘lockdown doesn’t work’, they think we actually, you know, locked down.

We slowed it down bigtime though.

It’s not gone though. As soon as we open back up, cases will increase in 10 days-2 weeks.

WE are going to stay home though, until a working treatment protocol is developed and fast enough testing that it will make a difference BEFORE we need to be admitted to the hospital. ‘We’ aren’t there yet. WE will let the people who think they need a haircut or steak dinner just to ‘get out of the house’ be the guinea pigs for the treatments/tests/protocols. Flubros to the rescue!


68 posted on 04/30/2020 6:44:10 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

SOUTH KOREA - STUDY

…”We described the epidemiologic characteristics of a COVID-19 outbreak centered in a call center in South Korea. We identified 97 confirmed COVID-19 case-patients in building X, indicating an attack rate of 8.5%. However, if we restrict our results to the 11th floor, the attack rate was as high as 43.5%. …

... Despite considerable interaction between workers on different floors of building X in the elevators and lobby, spread of COVID-19 was limited almost exclusively to the 11th floor, which indicates that the duration of interaction (or contact) was likely the main facilitator for further spreading of SARS-CoV-2.

...In recent a US study, the symptomatic secondary attack rate among 445 close contacts of COVID-19 case-patients was 10.5% among household members (3). In this outbreak in South Korea, we found that the secondary attack rate within the household was 16.5% among symptomatic index case-patients, which is consistent with other reports.

...The role of asymptomatic COVID-19 case-patients in spreading the disease is of great concern. Among 97 confirmed COVID-19 case-patients in this study, 4 (4.1%) remained asymptomatic during the 14-days of monitoring. This rate is lower than the 30.8% rate estimated in previous modeling (4)...Previous reports have postulated that SARS-CoV-2 in asymptomatic (or presymptomatic) case-patients might become transmissible to others (6); however, given the high degree of self-quarantine and isolation measures that were instituted after March 8 among this cohort, our analyses might have not detected the actual transmissibility in asymptomatic COVID-19 case-patients. Robust mass testing of all suspected case-patients might have prevented asymptomatic transmission because asymptomatic persons were given information about their possible infection and therefore might have self-isolated from their household members....

... Date of symptom onset by office seat would be informative in understanding SARS-CoV-2 transmission in close contact area. However, our findings demonstrate the power of screening all potentially exposed persons and show that early containment can be implemented and used in the middle of national COVID-19 outbreak. By testing all potentially exposed persons and their contacts to facilitate the isolation of symptomatic and asymptomatic COVID-19 case-patients, we might have helped interrupt transmission chains...

...In summary, this outbreak exemplifies the threat posed by SARS-CoV-2 with its propensity to cause large outbreaks among persons in office workplaces. Targeted preventive strategies might help mitigate the risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection in these vulnerable group.

complete writeup:
Coronavirus Disease Outbreak in Call Center, South Korea
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/8/20-1274_article


87 posted on 04/30/2020 7:31:04 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Black Agnes

“The day after ‘we’ locked down, the parking lot at the local walmart was totally full, cars parked up and down the road. More than black friday even. Giant gaggles of people milling around in the parking lot.”

Same here for Lowes, tons of people shopping at Lowes for home improvement and garden items.


88 posted on 04/30/2020 7:33:53 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Black Agnes
Flubros to the rescue!

We live to serve.

242 posted on 05/01/2020 10:09:25 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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