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Contact tracing, Smartphones, Google and Apple...

Posted on 06/09/2020 11:17:40 AM PDT by dhs12345

Sounds like contact tracing is right around the corner and our Big Brother friends, Google and Apple, are planning help facilitate tracking our activities via our smartphones.

Just curious if anyone has considered dumping the smartphone for a simple flip phone. I presume that my position can still be traced via the triangulation cell tower network but that resolution is limited. However since the simple phones don't have a GPS chip and "smart" capabilities, detailed positioning and track is not as easily available to Big Brother.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: contacttracing; cowerinfear; donthurtmee; googleandapple; hideinahole; imafraid; poosee; qanon; romanesqueer; scaredweenie; smartphones
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1 posted on 06/09/2020 11:17:40 AM PDT by dhs12345
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What you are referring to will be optin and it is not related to positioning tracking.

And no, I will not trade in my smart phone.


2 posted on 06/09/2020 11:21:47 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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If you do not need it, don’t take it with you. I would imagine someone will soon come up with tech to fool GPS, too.


3 posted on 06/09/2020 11:22:56 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (I'd rather have a rude President than a polite tyrant.)
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To: dhs12345

I already have an app: NOVID. It’s pretty useless so far. No one except me and my wife seem to have it. When I installed it, both our phones reflected a contact immediately. Since then no contacts at all after about 3 weeks.

But let’s be honest. I’m not worried about the government or anyone else stealing my data with this app. I’m happy to use it until the COVID thing passes. It would be nice though if I were not the only one.


4 posted on 06/09/2020 11:22:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dhs12345

My only smartphone was assigned from work. I am not going to take it with me as often. Best not to be reliant on such things.


5 posted on 06/09/2020 11:23:33 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Get a faraday case for your phone.


6 posted on 06/09/2020 11:24:15 AM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: dhs12345

The “Right to Privacy” is part of CA Constitution.
Unless CA wants a 200M people as part of a class action lawsuit, it would be unwise of them to go further.


7 posted on 06/09/2020 11:24:18 AM PDT by Zathras
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What Google and Apple are doing is simply making it possible to use these apps. They aren’t installing the app on your phone. If you want the app you will need to install it yourself.


8 posted on 06/09/2020 11:25:16 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I keep my phone in a Faraday bag. Nothing gets in or out until I decide. Messaging and emails will keep trying to get thru, buffering at your ISP until your phone pings a tower. Once you remove it from the Velcro enclosed bag it takes about a minute to ping a tower and receive data. Do what you need with your phone and then put it back in the bag. Just like that, poof! It disappears.


9 posted on 06/09/2020 11:25:34 AM PDT by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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Contact tracing has been around for over 50 years. The APIs are already in place in iOS and Android. But so far nobody has an app. Which you would have to download. And they revolve around bluetooth. Really people, got enough problems in the world without you trying to get paranoid over nothing.


10 posted on 06/09/2020 11:29:24 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: Zathras

Constitution? What’s that?


11 posted on 06/09/2020 11:30:55 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Brilliant

And what happens if you don’t want the information available?

Best to not have the information in the first place.


12 posted on 06/09/2020 11:32:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Android has or had a “spoof my gps” app. I used it to not have to listen to endless JUUL commercials while listening to out of town radio.


13 posted on 06/09/2020 11:32:34 AM PDT by Clay Moore (Mega prayers, Rush)
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To: discostu

Ya. That’s what we said before the government violated our 1st amendment rights during the covid shutdown.

Basic phone will not have the capability.


14 posted on 06/09/2020 11:34:07 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Again the FACTS:
Don’t want contact tracing app: don’t download it. It really is just that simple.


15 posted on 06/09/2020 11:35:48 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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The facts: you don’t need an app. The have been shows showing how easy it is to track a phone. Even when “powered off.”


16 posted on 06/09/2020 11:39:49 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Received “Google Maps Timeline” e-mail from Google, with a link to my travel timelines "to help during this COVID-19 period....

Out of ALL of the little Red Dots showing where I've been for MONTHS....

The ONLY location tagged with a location name…..Reads:

"Was at XYZ Armory Retail Shop and indoor Shooting Range."

17 posted on 06/09/2020 11:43:48 AM PDT by G Larry (The People must shutdown the tyrants.)
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That’s true of any cellphone, remember that’s how they found OJ. But it won’t get the 6 feet of granularity they want for the contact tracing. For that you need the app and bluetooth enabled.


18 posted on 06/09/2020 11:43:56 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: blackdog

Brand/model recommendations if you could?


19 posted on 06/09/2020 11:55:15 AM PDT by avenir
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To: G Larry

Yup. It is none of their business where I have been.

I probably wouldn’t have anything to worry about but I am getting damned tired of my civil liberties being trampled upon. And this is right around the corner.

We have learned that, if given the right excuse, our civil rights and the bill of rights can be nullified in a second and without due process.


20 posted on 06/09/2020 11:55:53 AM PDT by dhs12345
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