Was the COVID-19 Test Meant to Detect a Virus?

undercoverdc.com ^ | April 7, 2020 | Cella Farber

[Auntie Mame]

This is a long read but very worthwhile.

Have you ever considered what, exactly, constitutes a Covid-19 diagnosis?

Or, what about HIV? Have you ever even given it a thought as to how these cases are diagnosed?

Did you know that in one country after testing a person might be considered HIV positive and in another country, same test, same result, they'd be negative?

And what, exactly constitutes a test?

These questions and more are discussed in this amazingly informative article.

[Pelham]

It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

[ifinnegan]

Too much extraneous crap.

[knarf]

NO !

It's entire purpose was to be a vehicle for numbers ..

('lectic'ly they keep a baseball score)

.. because America is hooked on media and media knows how to say their numbers, but they have to have a platform from which to manipulate the populace.

Witness now an increase in "testing" translates into an increase in "cases" which subliminally is refracted as "deaths'

Too many Americans are public school "educated" and don't (can't) read English well enough to understand when we're being hustled.

look up the word "refract" ... I learned it in the 7th grade and I'm 72.

[Boogieman]

“We have an immune system that is a miracle like The Sistine Chapel. It withstands toxic, microbial inundation on a grand scale at all times, while operating a super-highway of adaptive life-sustaining genetic information, on cellular bridges, emitting telegrams of vital evolutionary code, slandered as “viruses” or “retroviruses.””

Oh, I see. So the author thinks viruses are not real? Or not dangerous?

Alright, I’ll give her views a fair hearing. AFTER she injects herself with a hypodermic needle full of HIV-tainted blood.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

And smallpox, polio, pertussis, ebola, rabies, hantavirus, dengue, etc.

Good luck with that Sistine Chapel of an immune system. Enjoy your telegrams.

[Montaignes Cat]

This article needs to be studied, not merely read.

[Auntie Mame]

This article needs to be studied, not merely read.

Great comment. I completely agree.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

You know what, I DID wonder what constitutes a COVID-19 diagnosis, so I looked it up. The PCR test looks for viral proteins specific to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Here's the more technical verbiage:

"RT-qPCR based assays designed to amplify SARS-CoV-2-specific sequences are the primary method currently used for detection of active infections. Tests are available targeting various unique SARS-CoV-2 sequences in the N, E, S and RdRp sequences (3,10). RT-qPCR tests that use two or more targets are likely to have higher specificity."(https://www.promega.com/applications/virus-detection-assay-coronavirus-detection-covid-19-sars-cov-2/sars-cov-2-covid-serology-testing-pcr-testing/)

And while I know we've all seen the generic "coronavirus" graphics, here's an actual SARS-CoV-2 specific graphic:

And here is what actual SARS-CoV-2 viruses actually look like in an electron microscope:

[MayflowerMadam]

My sister sent these to me today. Maybe not true, but very interesting:

Robert Tayman
@TaymanRobert
·9h
“Nurses at a hospital doing covid testing became suspicious when all their tests were coming back positive. They sent 2 tests with unused swabs and they came back positive. Nurses used fake names, sent 10 unused swabs to be tested and all came back positive.We are being played!”

Also:
“Somebody reported scheduling a test thru CVS, but they didn’t go to the appointment. Couple days later, imagine their surprise when they got a positive test result in the mail.”

Peoples_Pundit
@Peoples_Pundit
·5h

[RockyTx]

.....What do we mean when we say somebody has ‘tested positive’...

perhaps some kind FReeper would
write down
what the answer is.

thanks in advance
Rocky

[combat_boots]

Thank you for this info

[Auntie Mame]

From the article:

In the US, we have all but abandoned classical diagnostic medicine in favor of biotech, or lab result medicine. This has been going on for a long time and is a dangerous turning. The “Corona test” is named with characteristic tech-tedium: “CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel.” That means it is a needle in a DNA haystack test. A PCR test.

It finds fragments, nucleic acids. From an email from Kary Mullis, to the widow of boxer Tommy Morrison, whose career and life were destroyed by an “HIV test,” and who litigated ferociously for years, against test manufacturers, Dr. Mullis wrote, on May 7, 2013:

“PCR detects a very small segment of the nucleic acid which is part of a virus itself. The specific fragment detected is determined by the somewhat arbitrary choice of DNA primers used which become the ends of the amplified fragment. “

If things were done right, “infection” would be a far cry from a positive PCR test.

“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it,” Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer, and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics told me. “You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PRC test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms.”

I asked Dr. Rasnick what advice he has for people who want to be tested for COVID-19.
“Don’t do it, I say, when people ask me,” he replies. “No healthy person should be tested. It means nothing but it can destroy your life, make you absolutely miserable.”
One of the countless head-spinning mysteries of this whole Corona Situation has been the advent of famous people, from Tom Hanks and his wife, to Sophie Trudeau, to Prince Charles announcing they had “tested positive” for COVID-19 and were self-quarantining. In all these famous-powerful people cases, the symptoms were either non-existent or mild. Why, one wondered, did they make such hay about it? The British Royals, especially, seemed to contradict their ethos of secrecy in this case. So what did it mean? It signaled, if anything, that COVID-19 is not all that deadly. That the virus can be present without causing the disease. That host factors matter. And that being “positive” for COVID-19 is neither a PR death sentence nor an actual death sentence. Maybe in their elite and esoteric language, it means some kind of prestige, or sacrament to a Pagan Virus Deity. Who knows? In the case of the Trudeau, Sophie tested positive, and had symptoms, while her husband Justin, the Prime Minister, never got sick, and was never tested. (He didn’t want to appear privileged; Not everybody can get tested in Canada, you must have symptoms.)

We do live now in a world dominated by a Corona virus, as my friend Kevin Corbett, a retired nurse in the UK puts it, “with knobs on it.” Shrek-Green is the color that was chosen. We’re lost in a simulation, seeking to grab hold of “truth” and reality. One way that I do that is to grab hold of words, slow them down, and analyze them. Globalists love to weaponize words and make spells out of them. Hypnotics. To this end, they invent new words, and force you to use them and live them. Words like “Corona Virus,” and “Social Distancing.” “COVID-19.” “Tested Positive.”

[Tacrolimus1mg]

Wow, that was a fascinating read... I would have loved to meet the creator of the PCR and pick his brain. What a shame.

[jeffc]

We can try to tell people all of that til we're blue in the face, but I suspect some "members" here aren't really members and their only reason for being here is to spread fake news and stir the pot.

We need to ignore them or report them to JimRob. There were 2 people just last week he ban-hammered ...

[lizma2]

Give me a break.

You honestly thing this virus hasn’t been politicized??

There are bad viruses but I’m reading medical literature and this isn’t the plague. It’s a bad cold that is being used.

I don’t know anyone who has had the Dx nor does anyone I know.

We are being played cuz we elected someone who doesn’t need the DC machine to get his cash. The Deep State can’t buy him. Therefore attack.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

Of course it’s been politicized. What hasn’t at this point? And of course the media doesn’t really do the whole “honest reporting of the facts” thing anymore. My point is we have to be able to find our own objective measures and our own truths where we can. It’s not the plague, but it’s also not just a cold or flu either (neither of which kill >100,000 people in 3 months). It spreads rapidly and kills somewhere between 0.26% (CDC lower bound IFR) and 1% (Johns Hopkins upper end likely IFR). That’s a lot of people if we don’t manage it properly. It’s worthy of serious attention, but not panic.

[antidisestablishment]

The argument was more about the complete lack of scientific standards regarding diagnosis. Given the ridiculous propaganda surrounding this “pandemic”, I believe it’s a worthwhile read. Whether you buy into the AIDS/HIV debate or not, the facts are pretty clear: the “science” of detection is arbitrary at best and absolutely fraudulent at worse. These methods were never intended to be used for diagnosis, and relying on them for policy is asinine.

People are far too impressed with experts, and few have any understanding of how complicated the real world is. Obviously some get mortally ill from this disease, but comorbidity and lack of specificity of symptoms makes diagnosis a crapshoot. Those who are hospitalized with lungs looking like concrete are obviously infected, but many people with (or even without) various symptoms are being included in the cases.

I am very much at risk, as is my mom, but it’s not worth destroying the country or world over this. Magical thinking is not a good substitute for policy, despite a twenty-foot veneer of Inconclusive “data.”

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting possibly, the best article published on the testing realities or not so much testing realities of Corona 19!

Warning to those, who might read this, if you are not prepared to have your beliefs up to now re Corona 19 and testing for it shredded, then don’t read it.

If you feel like many of us, that we have been lied to and misled on this virus since we heard about it in mid march. Set aside about 30 minutes just to get into the article.

Many of the CV19 cows sacred cows are turned into hamburger if one reads this summary with an open mind.

You also, may have Deja vu moments re the bs surrounding the AIDS epidemic and many of same actors/medical experts as various so called scientific levels are unmasked in this article and this Corona 19 Virus.

I will return after 5:30 pm, after about half of my evening glass of wine has been taken to ease the mental unease, released by this article.

Warning, this article may destroy what you think you might know about CV 19 and the testing for CV 19.

If you don’t feel mislead, manipulated and abused by the Corona 19 BSers after reading this, I am sorry that I wasted your time. Please return to where you were,

[NorthWoody]

The only person I’ve ever known named “Mame” is long dead. She incorrectly spelled it “Mamie” though. What an idiot, huh?

Either way, every time I see your user name it brings back fond memories.

Thanks for posting this. There is nothing real, honest, or above-board about any of this.