Posted on 07/10/2020 5:58:48 AM PDT by devane617
“This new policy does not allow…privately owned firearms onto the installation for the purpose of concealed carry,” Wright continued. “It cannot be stored in your vehicle.”
The POF may only be transported to an individual’s residence to store if residing in Privatized Housing or Fam Camp. Those residing in the dormitories or billeting may transport on base to store the POF in the 325th SFS Armory.
Keeping troops unarmed while on base has a great track record./s How many killed so far?
Remember that workplace violence incident at Ft. Hood during the last administration? Would have been quelled if soldiers were armed on base.
Dunno, but remember, only law-abiding citizens obey gun laws.
At least the sentries. Try same thing. Expect different result. Madness.
I just got back from my local town hall where I went to get a form for a fire arms permit. Now you have to apply on line. At least here in NJ where I live.
I keep a Springfield .45 XD compact in my glove compartment working at our local Air Force Base in a Fighter Squadron. Our active shooter plan is to get to the old men’s trucks (3 of us keep pistols in our vehicles), break out a window and grab their guns from the glove box and ammo from the center storage compartment. Where I sit I will probably one of the first shot when a shooter enters the building. I have not received anything on this yet and will not comply. I am still a sitting duck in my truck going to and from the only gate for regular vehicle traffic, which is 10 miles from town.
This is nothing new for the Air Force. It’s always been the case since at 1977.
I lived in the Barracks at Peterson AFB (well, my first month at Ent AFB) from Dec 1976 - Oct 1979.
I had a sweet little Glenfield 22 bolt action I bought in 1977. I had to store it in the Security Police armory. Later I got a nice cowboy 30-30 Marlin lever gun, just like the Rifleman.
I had to go pull my firearm every time I went hunting or plinking. One time I noticed the Glenfield was banged up a bit. I pitched a fit with armory. They said it wasn’t them... Right.
I sold the 30-30 to another airman, but kept my .22. I still have it. Her name is Sweet Pea. 43 years old. She was stolen during our home renovation in 2001. I got her back when they caught the contractor’s right hand foreman with a house full of stolen goods.
She can still take out a squirrel’s eye at 100 feet.
You might now. Why post the details? There are no secrets kept here.
So our military folks can only be trusted with issued weapons at a time deemed appropriate by the command?
...this reminds me of my Navy’s response to a motorcycle accident in Sasebo in about 1969. A sailor was riding on the back due to needing a ride to the base. The driver went through a large pipe and seeing an obstacle hanging down at the end of the pipe he ducked. His passenger did not see it and was killed instantly.
Our Navy, ever ready to over-react, outlawed riding double. Result: Many sailors could not get to work! Fortunately, I had my own 175 Honda to ride so it didn’t effect me.
Offutt AFB, near Omaha, Nebraska, announced the same policy about six months ago when a new wing commander took the helm.
Security police/forces building and armory was in the area flooded out by the Missouri River and is unusable and slated for demolition. How many privately owned firearms stored there were damaged or ruined by the flooding?
Anyways, the COL was anti-gun (more like firearm law ignorant) and said I can't have machine guns and said he was thinking of calling Sierra Vista PD or Cochise Co. Sheriff. When I showed him the Base Commander's Memorandum on personal firearm storage which specifically mentioned ATF Forms 3, 4, 5, and FFLs, my paperwork, NRA certifications, CCW license, and especially my FFL, he backed off.
Later he thanked me for giving him an education on federal firearm laws and told me to call him when I went shooting. Not very often an 0-2 can educate an 0-6. Went to breakfast a few days later with Sandrat circa 2006.
These restrictions on weapons on post are absurd. For example, a local installation, Redstone Arsenal, has a big sign next to all entrances that proclaim that all weapons are prohibited to include “knives with blades longer than three inches”. What makes this absurd is the PX sells knives on that are illegal by this ordnance. Also, every set of quarters has knives in their kitchens that are also illegal.
A friend ran afoul of this policy when he tried to enter with a large knife. He honestly admitted he had the knife when questions and security said he could not bring it on post. He then informed security that he had been contracted to lay carpet in the new PX and he asked security how they expected him to do that contract. Security then told him that since the knife was a tool, he could bring it on post.
When I lived at another installation, we were friends with the post commander. He remarked at his surprise that there were more weapons registered than there were inhabitants. He was even more surprised when I asked him how many were unregistered?
One day, the boss came in said this is a drill, hit the Red Button, a silent alarm. In a minute, the first APs started piling in with M-16s and probably others were securing the exterior of the building, I couldn’t see that from where I was with my hands up. This wasn’t play acting, firearms were loaded for bear.
So, I have a lot of respect for military security but not every location has a red button by them to hot line a call out to the Calvary. Errr A-10s.... I’ve got no problem with a subgroup of non-security persons being authorized to open or concealed carry on base. The more the better.
Don’t know if I agree with this.
The profession of military is a high stressed job that has a history of suicide and medical baggage attached to it psychologically. PTSD, for instance, is not something that can be overlooked in the allowance of the carry of a privately owned firearm on a full time basis. And it is within the chance that any one of the members that are carrying could be plagued with it.
As for the suicide aspect, in 2019, the VA released its National Veteran Suicide Prevention Annual Report, which stated that the suicide rate for veterans was 1.5 times the rate of non-veteran adults. The report established that there were 6000 or more veteran suicides per year from 2008 to 2017. The report also stated that veterans consist of 13.5% of all deaths by suicide in US adults but only make up 7.9% of the US adult population. So it indicates a depressed mind with a weapon. And to say that only happens after retirement would be foolish.
The business of military in time breaks people down both mentally and physically. It’s not that easy a job. But giving the opportunity for one of the active members that can be in stress, and that happens continually, to carry on a government reservation, just by the percentages, is not sound. They don’t always kill just themselves.
Tack that on to charlie wishing to commit suicide by being dropped while killing the infidel, and you have a mistake in the loop. Being a professional soldier doesn’t automatically make you a police officer. But it can make you a killer. Opportunities increased.
rwood
>>...when a new wing commander took the helm.<<
Just recently happened at Tyndall.
Sounds like the policy that was in place at Homestead AFB when I was there. ‘81-‘85. I kept an H&K 91 in my locker, though. One of the guys in the dorm let me hold it as collateral on a loan
Our SPs carried 5 rounds apiece.
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