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The great Maya "white road" that connected the cities of Coba and Yaxuna
Archaeology Magazine ^ | May/June 2020 | Jason Urbanus

Posted on 08/02/2020 2:06:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: katana

No llamas in the Yucatán.


21 posted on 08/02/2020 3:52:45 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Mr Rogers

I expect that Mayans did use wheels, just not on carts. The problem is that there are no draft animals that the Mayans had access to for which a wheeled cart carried more than packs. Prior to the development of roller and ball bearings any increase in load afforded by a wheeled cart pulled by humans was consumed by the friction of the wheel bearings.

I would expect that the Mayans did use small wheels to help them build their cities, better known as pulleys.


22 posted on 08/02/2020 4:05:19 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: PAR35
Thanks PAR35 for the link.

23 posted on 08/02/2020 4:40:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I'm givn' you an LOL, even though in Mayan "X" is "Sh", and I'll only nitpick that that because I'm hideously jealous I didn't think of it first. ;^)

24 posted on 08/02/2020 4:42:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: 2banana; Harmless Teddy Bear
Yes, even the Precolumbian Mayans and Olmecs were racist.
Olmec Colossal Stone Heads - Mexico Unexplained

Olmec Colossal Stone Heads - Mexico Unexplained

25 posted on 08/02/2020 4:47:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Yardstick
Same here. The Inca stucco was typically painted, has larged been washed off by the rain, leaving the rough stone walls, and the Mayans lived in at least as much rain and a lot longer ago.

26 posted on 08/02/2020 4:48:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: nicollo
Rome could build that in a day.
True -- as long as it wasn't inside city limits, because, y'know, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Rimshot - Ba dum tssshhh

27 posted on 08/02/2020 4:51:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
No llamas in the Yucatán.

Since it is known that the Aztecs and Incas did have communications (neither fast nor direct), I wonder why there was no attempt to bring llamas to the valley of Mexico (Mexico City area). Even if used only as meat animals they would have been an improvement in diet, and increased options for farmers in lean years given that they can eat things that humans cannot (corn stover?).

28 posted on 08/02/2020 4:53:05 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: SunkenCiv

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29 posted on 08/02/2020 5:01:42 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: SauronOfMordor; GreenLanternCorps

Humans are pretty good draft animals. I’m thinking of the old hand-pulled rickshaws in the Orient and the handcarts many Americans dragged across half our continent on their way to Utah and Oregon. I’m sure there are lots of other examples. And the Mayans certainly had plenty of human power.


30 posted on 08/02/2020 5:09:10 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Songcraft

LOL!


31 posted on 08/02/2020 5:15:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Fraxinus
If you need to move 200 lbs, something with wheels - including friction - is possible. On one's back? Not likely, particularly if the object is irregular and hard. A large dog can pull a cart.

I suspect a better explanation is we sit on the shoulders of giants and think we owe our view entirely to ourselves. We've had wheels for moving loads for so many thousands of years we cannot conceive of anyone NOT making the connection...but in the New World, it seems no one did.

32 posted on 08/02/2020 5:22:04 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
We had wheels for thousands of years but it was not until the middle ages that the wheelbarrow was invented. At least in Europe. In China they had it for a long time before but still long after the arrival of the wheeled cart pulled by draft animals.

Like the concept of zero, double ledger book keeping, the horse collar or using water wheels for something besides grinding grain there are any number of things that are blindingly obvious in retrospect.

33 posted on 08/02/2020 6:22:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Fraxinus
They used sleds. Which was part of the reason for the roads.
34 posted on 08/02/2020 6:24:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Mr Rogers

The image looks like something from Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii or something taken in Russia before the revolution. May I ask it’s history ?


35 posted on 08/02/2020 8:51:25 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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To: ADemocratNoMore

“May I ask it’s history ?”

Came from Wiki:

“A photochrom from the late 19th century showing two peddlers selling milk from a dogcart near Brussels, Belgium”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogcart_(dog-drawn)


36 posted on 08/03/2020 6:05:46 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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