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Is it possible to build a mile-high skyscraper?
Big Think ^ | 14 Sept 2020 | MIKE COLAGROSSI

Posted on 09/15/2020 6:05:57 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Couldn’t get me in it.

But fun to read about.


61 posted on 09/15/2020 8:16:59 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Rio

I did see a demonstration of an elevator that had the ability to move up and down and left and right by riding rails. So it is technically feasible to have elevators that don’t need cables.

Being a demonstration, I don’t know how close to commercialization it was.


62 posted on 09/15/2020 8:20:20 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is thp at they are both death cults.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Just take Mt. Everest....

Dig out floors and rooms inside the mountain...

And call it a building.

(Whoever takes up my idea, will owe me royalties. I’ll collect in a few hundred years, after it’s finished).


63 posted on 09/15/2020 8:36:38 PM PDT by adorno
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Easy to keep virus out.


64 posted on 09/15/2020 8:43:14 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: adorno

Just take Mt. Everest....

Dig out floors and rooms inside the mountain...

And using that famous cheap Chinese labor!

With China owning half the mountain and all...

They will take the lion’s share.


65 posted on 09/15/2020 8:44:28 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Jonty30
Long ago I observed trees after the passing of a cyclone. Those with deep taproots were the ones that survived." - Frank Lloyd Wright

Building a mile high expanding on Wright's observations would solve the elevator problem too. Elevators go up the first 30 floods then the building 'branches out'... allowing more creative ways to move people. Copying Disney original 'people movers' from EPCOT would move lots of people easily...a tree design also solves much of the balance problems.

Imitating a banyon tree - or many banyon trees and you've got a strong interconnected city in the sky. The Edison Winter House has a 400 foot banyon... a great tree to copy. That said, these types of buildings make more sense for places like the moon, Mars, etc.

Edison and Ford Winter Estates - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_and_Ford_Winter_Estates

66 posted on 09/15/2020 8:49:48 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Biden's an 'innocent face' masking harsh commie thugs ... a useful face to fool the yokels.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Bragging rights.

I guess.

I would rather the world's most extensive botanical gardens. Useful, beautiful, attracting research and tourism to my country. Make sure my name was remembered for generations.

Probably cheaper as well.

Means I could have that really fast car too. :)

67 posted on 09/15/2020 8:52:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: nickcarraway

If you were in Denver, yes.

Build 5 story building and your over a mile!!


68 posted on 09/15/2020 8:53:21 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Just takes one airplane to take it out.


69 posted on 09/15/2020 8:56:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Just takes one airplane to take it out.

A sad, sad truth.


70 posted on 09/15/2020 9:13:20 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Is it possible to build a mile-high skyscraper?”

sure. just build it in Denver: after the first story you’re there ...


71 posted on 09/15/2020 9:23:37 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Interesting Times

Dr. Robert Forward of Hughes Research developed the concept of dynamic support to build large structures. A linear magnetic accelerator acting upon a stream of mass provides a force-counterforce arrangement, along Newton’s motion law. This applies whether adding or subtracting velocity to the mass flow, the direction of the reaction force flipping positive or negative.

This provides for a circumvention of materials strength requirements. A structure can be built in which support is supplied along distributed points, by adding or subtracting momentum of a high velocity matter flow by electromagnetic manipulation. Obviously, electrical energy can be stored or extracted from the kinetic energy of a ferromagnetic mass flow. This exchange inherently involves the application of force to accomplish the transformation of one for another.


72 posted on 09/15/2020 11:19:42 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Rio

Star Trek—-“The turbolift, or turbo-elevator, was a device that provided rapid transport with both vertical and horizontal transportation for personnel through a system of turboshafts between key sections of starships and space stations.”—Memory Alpha

The Germans are already working upon implementing this for real transport about a building.

https://www.asme.org/topics-resources/content/elevating-the-future

https://www.thyssenkrupp-elevator.com/en/products-and-service/multi/


73 posted on 09/15/2020 11:33:14 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

A bit more detail:

https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/288890


74 posted on 09/15/2020 11:42:56 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Raycpa

because trees have more sense than some people


75 posted on 09/15/2020 11:50:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Who is Norm Eisen?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A ten story one mile square food farm would be better use of space. Face it, what jobs are people gonna do in those buildings that they can’t do out of them? Lawyers? financial institutions? Sleeper dorms? Restaurants? Publishing house offices? Think mildew control. Roach infestation. Earthquakes. Lightning strikes. Riots. Parking? Delivery ports? Norovirus. Cute design exercise however.


76 posted on 09/16/2020 2:14:05 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Ozark Tom

Perfect links. Thanks. That is pretty much what I was thinking. Linear motors are terrific.


77 posted on 09/16/2020 7:14:28 AM PDT by Rio
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I call these projects kind of buildings a symbol of owner & architect architectural penis envy, and nothing mote.


78 posted on 09/16/2020 7:43:01 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Rio; Ozark Tom

If you are interested in elevators...
You will enjoy this article.

An interesting read for most:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/04/21/up-and-then-down

THE ROPE FREE ELEVATOR...
Cool stuff!
But would you want to live in a high rise apartment with one as your primary egress?

Way back when as a trainee I’d ask why not use the latest cool stuff?

Some senior crusty old guy would say “it hasn’t been proven”.
I’d mention, it has been approved Europe for years and many US states?
He would politely explain that proven and approved are not the same, and he was not going to put his name on it.

For example.
My wife and I have installed about a mile(feels like it) of O2 barrier PEX tubing for floor heat in our hundred-year-old house.
This product was widely used in Europe and Korea in the 1960s... some years later many failures.
They may have overlooked oxygen diffusion.
BIG PROBLEMS!

Then they added the oxygen barrier.
I hope it works because if not, my house would become a frozen teardown.


79 posted on 09/16/2020 8:26:39 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Wuli

TRUE!

Not wanting to state the obvious...
See#59


80 posted on 09/16/2020 8:30:03 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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