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To: dp0622
But even a year or two in prison would have been better than always worrying about a knock at the door and having a stained soul.

Being a Catholic I would have to say that his soul is still stained. Unless he receives absolution from priest he still in in danger of eternal damnation.

On the other side of the argument you are correct he does need to receive Earthly justice for his soul to be cleansed. But I half suspect he may have waited a bit too long to receive justice and be made whole.

Since you brought up the matter of his soul I had to throw in my little bit of the Catechism.

13 posted on 11/25/2020 12:42:58 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Pontiac

“Unless he receives absolution from priest he still in in danger of eternal damnation.”

So belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus for forgiveness of sins is insufficient for eternal life? There needs to be more?


16 posted on 11/25/2020 3:18:33 AM PST by bigcat32
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To: Pontiac; dp0622; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; ...
Being a Catholic I would have to say that his soul is still stained. Unless he receives absolution from priest he still in in danger of eternal damnation. On the other side of the argument you are correct he does need to receive Earthly justice for his soul to be cleansed. But I half suspect he may have waited a bit too long to receive justice and be made whole. Since you brought up the matter of his soul I had to throw in my little bit of the Catechism.

Being a Catholic means you are misled, which I can say based upon Scripture as a former altar boy, CCD teacher and lector, the latter two after I become manifestly born again thru deep repentance and faith in the risen Lord Jesus to save me on His account, by His sinless shed blood.

Besides New Testament pastors not being Catholic priests, rather than needing absolution from one, "The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit." (Psalms 34:18) The apostle Paul himself did not need absolution from such for being complicit in the murder of saint Stephan, and for torturing and otherwise being injurious to them, but was repentant and believed on the Lord Jesus and confessed him in baptism, which a certain devout disciple ministered to him. (Acts 9; 22) While believers are to confess their sins to each other, and can obtain mercy for souls as we see in the story of the palsied man in Mark 2, and in which case (likely chastisement for sins of ignorance) pastors normally are to be called, the only command in the NT for confessing sins is to God and each other in general. The infirm man in James 5 is not even told to confess sins, any more than the palsied man, which account relates to this.

For more on this issue versus Catholic contention, see a recent post on FR if you want. Or here.

20 posted on 11/25/2020 5:29:36 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Pontiac

“Being a Catholic I would have to say that his soul is still stained. Unless he receives absolution from priest he still in in danger of eternal damnation.”

Well thank GOD that the Lord Jesus Christ is the judge and His laws that are written in His Word, Romans 10:9-10 absolutely without a doubt do not require a fallen man or rome.org to carry out the judgement and/or sentence.

10The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. 11And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.


26 posted on 11/25/2020 9:19:01 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it's that easy!)
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