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The New Civil War and More
vanity | BEJ

Posted on 12/02/2020 1:30:26 AM PST by BEJ

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To: Steve Van Doorn

Amen to that.


61 posted on 12/02/2020 10:16:49 AM PST by BEJ
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To: cyberstoic

Agree. People need to stop thinking 1861 and start thinking asymmetric warfare.


62 posted on 12/02/2020 10:21:54 AM PST by Windcatcher (Time to fly the other black flag -- one of no quarter for Marxists.)
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To: Pollster1

Yeah, you’re right about the long march. The universities are the bastions of the Left. It’s through them that leftist thought pervades society because students who attend university go into all walks of life: law, the courts, media, business, government, arts, education, Hollywood, etc. It’s the university that started this whole thing back when they embraced the Frankfurt School and Post Modernism. Leftist though became fashionable and everybody was reciting the gibberish. If I get started on this I will never end. But this has been a problem that people knew about for a long time — at least since the 1980s — and hardly nobody was willing to do anything about it... but talk. Now you have BLM being lionized by the public and big business. Incredible.


63 posted on 12/02/2020 10:30:24 AM PST by BEJ
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To: Pollard

I’m thinking there has to be a chain of command and a leader on top of the criminal organization. Basically, they are traitors. But they won’t be treated that way and investigated like other criminal or terrorist organizations. I think if the DOJ wanted they could trace it all back to the top, but who would they find... probably their own people or intel agencies or military. That’s why Bar wants to stay out of this. He is opening a HUGE CAN of WORMS. Our own people and government agencies are involved in this.


64 posted on 12/02/2020 10:40:37 AM PST by BEJ
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To: TonyM

“They already control those states, may as well let them pick up the tab for their run away social programs.”

Reestablish the rule of law and the Constitution in those states and they won’t be running them.

Your “succession”[sic] idea is like moving out of your house and leaving your stuff behind because somebody broke in. You are rewarding criminal theft of the country. What makes you thing they won’t come for you as soon as they have ruined what you gave them as tribute? It’s what they do. And who are you to trade the lives and fortunes of millions of your fellow citizens for your convenience? Get off your lazy, surrender-monkey ass and find a way to fight.


65 posted on 12/02/2020 10:50:38 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: datura

“Have the main traitors arrested as he speaks - FROM BOTH PARTIES.”

Anybody that needs to redundantly shout out “FROM BOTH PARTIES” is a tinfoil merchant.

If it is treason, it is treason, and party is irrelevant. Buying the left’s smear with the need to taint the right on every occasion is either shallow thinking or an agenda (which is it? Both?) Why else would you promote the both “parties are bad” line all the time?


66 posted on 12/02/2020 11:03:47 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: central_va

your premise is flawed

you’re assuming “we all want war”

i see where you’ve gone full nutter butters


67 posted on 12/02/2020 11:29:04 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BEJ

I think you nailed it .... lots of walking around a space rock out there


68 posted on 12/02/2020 12:11:04 PM PST by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: calenel
Mentioning the left’s takeover of the GOP is not tainting the right. Goal #15 of the communists says, “Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States”—facing that reality enables us to fight it better.
69 posted on 12/03/2020 10:44:56 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

It is possible to criticize individual Republicans, or even the individual actions of individual Republicans, without dumping on ALL Republicans. All dumping on all Republicans gets you is to be dismissed as a crank. Not that we don’t have plenty of those around here, but portraying everybody as the bad guy and everybody that has a different viewpoint than you as evil just alienates people.


70 posted on 12/04/2020 12:31:05 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel

Using the term RINO (Republican in name only) is the usual way to ensure not all Republicans are “dumped on”. RINOs have many common characteristics that they are not afraid to flaunt, to boot. The other term is “establishment”, sometimes written as “GOP-e” for short.


71 posted on 12/04/2020 12:33:15 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: central_va

The truly ghoulish thing is to trade the lives and fortunes of others so you can have “peace”. You don’t get to do that.

As if they won’t come for the rest when they’ve ruined what they stole prior.


72 posted on 12/04/2020 12:34:34 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Using the term RINO (Republican in name only) is the usual way to ensure not all Republicans are “dumped on”. RINOs have many common characteristics that they are not afraid to flaunt, to boot. The other term is “establishment”, sometimes written as “GOP-e” for short.”

Don’t be condescending. I know the lingo. Many people are sloppy in the use of it.

Perhaps you’ve not noticed the entrenched shallow thinkers that feel obligated to spout “BOTH PARTIES” when making a criticism of the actions of individuals. Or that all Republicans get bashed as if they all agree with what ever policy the poster is taking exception to. As I said, lumping everybody together just alienates people. Some of the shallow thinkers are downright authoritarian in their perspective, including many so-called Libertarians.

I am a registered Republican. When somebody that also happens to be a Republican makes some statement or takes some action that the aforementioned shallow thinkers don’t like and they respond bashing all Republicans, that’s an attack on me and the millions of Republicans that were not even consulted before being lumped in with the original offender. Not every Republican that disagrees with you is a RINO or GOPe or Establishment or a Swamp denizen. Not every Republican necessarily agrees with the RINO offender of the moment.

Often these things that get the shallow thinkers riled up are legitimate differences of opinion within the spectrum of the Republican outlook. As if said shallow thinkers have the only legitimate view, and anybody that disagrees is a heretic, whether to the left or to the right. I can point out many examples of this.

So please don’t pedantically lecture me on terminology that everybody knows but few strictly apply.


73 posted on 12/04/2020 12:56:45 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel
Just because I repeated the “lingo” did not mean I intended to condescend; you, however, now imply that all such “lingo” taints the whole brand, which is condescension.

It is not incorrect to say “both parties” (no shouting) when the actions of a majority of one particular party overshadow the stated party platform. Yes, it does reflect upon all members, since the truly conservative members now look like they gave tacit approval.

Your insistence on promoting the party name over the ideology of conservatism is where you go wrong, with all due respect. You need to get over that. And if you feel that you are being lectured, then you need to get over that as well. Also, read the books The Conscience of a Conservative and The Naked Communist to see what has been going on for several decades—yes, with the GOP.
74 posted on 12/04/2020 10:11:55 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Continue to lecture, you only prove my point.

Define “conservatism”.


75 posted on 12/04/2020 11:47:29 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel
Argumentum ad lapidem. And no conservative would ask the question of defining conservatism, knowing that its definition in the context of US jurisprudence as established at its founding is neither ambiguous nor relativistic.

There goes that haghty do not lecture me attitude characteristic of a liberal, again. I admit I do not know everything; time for you to admit that, especially to and of yourself.
76 posted on 12/04/2020 12:57:14 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

“Argumentum ad lapidem. And no conservative would ask the question of defining conservatism, knowing that its definition in the context of US jurisprudence as established at its founding is neither ambiguous nor relativistic.”

Evasion.

“There goes that haghty do not lecture me attitude characteristic of a liberal, again. I admit I do not know everything; time for you to admit that, especially to and of yourself.”

Projection.

Keep on lecturing, as, again, you are proving my point for me.


77 posted on 12/04/2020 2:58:45 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel
One-word accusations now? Repeat of ad lapidem. And insisting that you are being lectured by way of complaining is more of such, since it is a claim on your part that you are omniscient.

Well, if all you wish to do is troll and treat nobody with respect, I guess I will bid you a nice day at this point.
78 posted on 12/04/2020 3:26:31 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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