Posted on 01/23/2021 9:24:13 PM PST by PROCON
I hate these stories. If the mother was having mental problems, why kill the children? It’s sickening.
That’s freaky.
I don’t mean to be argumentative but to come alongside - I genuinely don’t see a solution.
Suppose this woman lived next door to me. I see totally normal behavior until the very end - then I see her go pick up her kids with a red stripe across her face - exactly what would I do? She could have picked up an obscure religion, or be playing a joke, or being involved in some sort of costume play with the kids - I’d do and say absolutely nothing. Are we to call the Authorities or schedule long deep talks every time we see something unusual? Absolutely impossible.
And the mentally ill don’t normally cooperate! They if anything will insist they are fine. They think you are the crazy one!! Very rare to accept help.
And then what is help? A weekly session with a usually ineffective psych? Medication?
I am trying to say the society is not bad about dealing with mental health. I am saying there is very little we can do.
Once someone shows repeated, observable, documented lack of touch with reality, I favor forced conservatorships, with yearly reviews by disinterested parties, and curtailment of civil liberties to the point where they have no control over unaware others (children, dependents, no driving, etc) but that would never fly in our current political environment.
Yes there is potential for abuse and I’d build in safeguards like ombudsman. But what is the alternative? These folks routinely harm themselves and often harm others. I had a problem with a man in the bus the other day. I managed to soothe him but he was delusional and IMO dangerous.
My great idea for conservatorships still would not have helped in this situation though. No one except maybe her husband had any idea there was a problem and he obviously didn’t think it was anywhere near this level.
Which leaves me where I was - it’s not the fault of our health system that this happens. Some things actually cannot be stopped. Which is a horrible thing to admit.
They haven’t released a lot of details. Where is stepmom? Did the young woman kill them out of spite because husband was hardly ever there to help? Did she kill them because she felt they would be better off dead than with him? So sad that she felt that was the only way out of her situation.
Many think that post-partum depression is merely an emotional issue, but it is often a severe vitamin deficiency after pregnancy has leached important nutrients from the mother, such as Omega-3 fatty acids—vital for brain health. So much more work needs to be done with pre- and post-natal nutrition. The medical industry in the U.S. is so highly biased against vitamin and mineral supplementation that they refuse to consider the chemical effects of vet/min deficiencies on the brain.
Yes, the children suffer death because of irresponsible adults. It makes me sick.
You reminded me of a woman patient I had. She was 59, just retired from a government job two years before. Neighbors found her on the ground one day. It looked like a stroke at first, but wasn’t. She went to the hospital and they ran tons of tests trying to figure out what was wrong.
She spent months in a very good hospital before being sent to the nursing home to die. They couldn’t do anything for her. She was on a feeding tube, which she pulled out daily, crawled on the floor, couldn’t talk, hit at everyone.
Looking through her records, our facility doctor noticed an odd lab, a copper deficiency. Within 3 weeks of being given a copper supplement, she was talking and thinking again. She ate real food, and became continent again. She was pleasant. Her gait was never back to normal but she could walk across a room. That no one at big, important hospital never noticed is criminal.
Why don’t they ever just shoot themselves instead of their children.
I worked in rest homes too while in High School. The saddest one I worked at had a resident who was a concentration camp. She had the number tattooed on her from those days.
Yes, that story always gave me the chills when she told it.
The nursing home here in Columbus, GA where my grandmother was at in her final months. They cared for the patients unlike the ones where I worked in California. Only $$ to them. My grandmother had a roommate who was forgetful (early dementia). She had a daughter. In the 9+ months that my grandmother was there we never saw this ladies daughter. We heard that they called her right before her mother died and she showed up.
Good point. Some of the nurses at one of our work sites have mentioned nutritional issues as a factor for PPD.
The lead actress in HBO's Miss Sherlock, Yūko Takeuchi, committed suicide last fall. There was speculation that it was PPD. Good actress, good future, now gone and her infant child motherless.
Please retract what you posted. You are breaking the narrative of postpartum depression and excuse making.
Anyway human nature by default is absorbed in selfishness.
We had a number of families that only showed up at the end. One horrible family never answered our phone calls, wvwn in emergencies. They only came after he passed to get his stuff that the facility bought for him with his money, such as a tv, electric razor, clothes, including a funeral suit and arrangements for him. One nephew wanted to wear the suit to the funeral. They sucked.
Those books are still in print, in affordable paperback. They changed my entire approach to eating and health. In spite of a genetic illness, vitamin and mineral supplements have helped me live a long life with physical and mental fitness.
Too many people like that too. Sad for sure.
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