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Spacecraft of the Future Could be Powered by Lattice Confinement Fusion
IEEE Spectrum ^ | Aug 5, 2020 | Michael Koziol

Posted on 02/27/2021 11:40:42 PM PST by Kevmo

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To: PIF

I have issues with Musk—but my number one issue:

—Takes lots of government money while claiming he is a capitalist


21 posted on 02/28/2021 9:15:12 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: null and void

That’s why Pond/Fleishman used Palladium, it soaks up Hydrogen like a sponge.


22 posted on 02/28/2021 9:36:29 AM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: rdcbn1

I think there are multiple nuclear processes going on , wherein the one that generates neutrons is what triggers the secondary nuclear process, p-p fusion which is what occurs in our Sun and is the most common naturally occurring nuclear fusion process in Nature... by far.


23 posted on 02/28/2021 9:41:47 AM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: cgbg

I have issues with Musk—but my number one issue:

—Takes lots of government money while claiming he is a capitalist


Why not? Some one else would just soak up the money. Besides he’s doing more with the little he gets from the Feds then others who get far more.

He’s made rocketry look more like science fiction of decades ago, while NASA has spent billions and still has not been able to achieve what they did in 60 years ago.

NASA: waste of space. Musk: money well spent.

And BTW, Being a Capitalist does not preclude accepting money from a government source.

Here’s one definition of Capitalism:
Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. Central characteristics of capitalism include capital accumulation, competitive markets, a price system, private property and the recognition of property rights, voluntary exchange and wage labor.

Here’s one definition of a Capitalist:
1. A supporter of capitalism. 2. An investor of capital in business, especially one having a major financial interest in an important enterprise.

Notice there is no hedge against taking government money. So Musk is correct. And Property Rights are far more important in the definition of Capitalism than fiscal sources.


24 posted on 02/28/2021 9:44:40 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rdcbn1; Wonder Warthog

You’re relatively new here, so you might not be aware of how controversial this subject is here on FR.

Back in 2008 I started posting LENR articles, and in 2010 I wrote an article about how I made money on Cold Fusion.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts

Then along came this guy Andrea Rossi. Promising results at irst, along with 3rd party testing. But the guy looked and acted like such a scam artist that it triggered the a$$#0/e brigade here on FR. I posted Rossi articles for 2&half months, but they hounded legitimate cold fusion threads for 2&half YEARS. We never had an experimentalist like you on those threads. It got pretty ugly.

I kept asking the mods for protection, a lot like how the qanonsense nutjobs have protection on their own q threads today. One of the mods even outed himself, having posted as a pure a$$#0/e on cold fusion threads but when he opused oout it turns out he wasn’t very conservative nor did he have any scientific training whatsoever. Bigfoot and chemtrails were okay with him but he joined the seagulls on the cold fusion threads.

I’ll probably be restarting the cold fusion ping list, but it is likely to be short lived if we don’t get legitimate moderator protection.


25 posted on 02/28/2021 10:50:18 AM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo

Right. Palladium. I misremembered it as platinum.


26 posted on 02/28/2021 10:58:01 AM PST by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Kevmo
Thinking you are right on that one. One of my colleagues at the time was a nuclear physicist who was adamantly opposed to “cold fusion “ on the basis that the energy thresholds to initiate fusion were simply too high to initiate fusion, although he did feel that the lattice confinement concept and mechanism was at least theoretically plausible.

We discussed the idea that incorporating a secondary neutron source and suitable activation methodology to the overcome the barrier to either get the ball rolling or even to mediate the cold fusion reaction could overcome the barriers and result in in a workable hybrid type of device.

Unfortunately, at the time, the last thing the guys that controlled suitable neutron sources and related hardware wanted to do was encourage cold fusion heretics in their research and, more importantly, in their search for dwindling sources of research dollars.

27 posted on 02/28/2021 11:04:12 AM PST by rdcbn1 (e)
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To: Kevmo; rdcbn1
I'd be quite happy to include your threads on my Nut-Job Conspiracy Theory pings, for some reason (like the large number of times the N-J Cs turn out to be true!) they don't get flamed much...

I've had a soft spot in my heart for cold fusion since day one.

At the time my thinking mirrored rdcbn1's take.

28 posted on 02/28/2021 12:03:44 PM PST by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Kevmo
"I’ll probably be restarting the cold fusion ping list, but it is likely to be short lived if we don’t get legitimate moderator protection."

I am sure that all the old skeptopaths will be out in force....

And then there is SAFIRE.

29 posted on 02/28/2021 12:06:34 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Sick to Death of Surrender Monkeys!)
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To: null and void

That’s counterintuitive that such a ping list would not draw out the FR Shiitebrigade m please add me to the list, I’ll take a look.


30 posted on 02/28/2021 1:40:50 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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I will ping you to the next few, but to actually get added to the ping list, you have to threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t!

It’s a right of passage...


31 posted on 02/28/2021 2:04:48 PM PST by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Kevmo
That’s counterintuitive that such a ping list would not draw out the FR Shiitebrigade

Yeah. A bit.

32 posted on 02/28/2021 2:06:15 PM PST by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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If you don’t add me to that ping list, I will report you to the mods.


33 posted on 02/28/2021 3:39:25 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo

Welcome Aboard!


34 posted on 02/28/2021 3:43:50 PM PST by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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Thanks


35 posted on 02/28/2021 4:20:51 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: rdcbn1

“Unfortunately, at the time, the last thing the guys that controlled suitable neutron sources and related hardware wanted to do was encourage cold fusion heretics in their research and, more importantly, in their search for dwindling sources of research dollars.”

If one really wants to set their hair on fire, offer them a process for a laser triggered meson decay chain, which leads to muons on-the-cheap.


36 posted on 02/28/2021 7:06:32 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Pontiac; rdcbn1

fyi, restarting the cold fusion ping list

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3938532/posts?page=20#20


37 posted on 03/03/2021 4:21:30 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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Thanks.

These new developments sure do sound like cold fusion.


38 posted on 03/03/2021 5:06:13 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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Sun in a Bottle: The Strange History of Fusion and the Science of Wishful Thinking
Sun in a Bottle:
The Strange History of Fusion
and the Science of Wishful Thinking

by Charles Seife


39 posted on 03/04/2021 6:54:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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