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Without taking a pro or con position with these cases, to me they point out exactly why almost all cruise ships are foreign built and foreign flagged.

There is a lot in the article to read and I was forced to excerpt it by FR rules.

With the armada of lawyers and ambulance chasers in this country ready to sue , if these ships were American flagged I believe they would be tied up for years in our courts.

This article pulls no punches ,here is a one para excerpt: "Dome said her husband began to present slight symptoms before he got off the Celebrity Eclipse on March 30, 2020. On April 2 he was diagnosed with COVID-19. Dome and her two sons, who had picked her and her husband up from the airport after they arrived home, also tested positive. On April 12, Robert Dome died."

Read the entire article for the dilemmas the covid virus has caused. -Tom

1 posted on 03/14/2021 11:33:28 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom; gibsonguy; NormsRevenge; Chgogal; Ann Archy; dennisw; entropy12; Captain Walker; ...
A different type of article on Cruise ships from the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

This article is definitely not favorable to Cruise Lines. -Tom

2 posted on 03/14/2021 11:44:11 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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Geez I hope the courts will have enough sense to stay out of this. For a court to say, after the fact, that the Cruise Line should have done this or shouldn’t have done that would be the height of judicial arrogance. Which means they probably will.


3 posted on 03/14/2021 11:47:05 AM PDT by DarrellZero
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The cruise lines can third-party in Communist China and the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

BOYCOTT CHINA


6 posted on 03/14/2021 11:57:48 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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Thanks.


7 posted on 03/14/2021 11:58:25 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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Legal issues aside, the early cruise ship experiences showed us how mysterious and inconsistent the virus is.

The husband got covid and died. The wife was fine?

Something like 20% of those early cruise passengers tested positive. Many of those were asymptomatic. Some died. But most, like the wife in the article, not affected?

Very strange.


8 posted on 03/14/2021 12:02:10 PM PDT by AC86UT89
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Yeah... yeah... scary virus spreading in the wild. Then a few people get infected/sick, a few more succumb to complications and death.

Not too much genius it takes in predicting what probably will unfold in the future once it hits/spreads into large population centers through the usual-suspect contagion venues. No different than the infection fallout from influenza, cold, hepatitis, herpes, or even the Ebola virus. And so what? This sh$t happens and ALWAYS there is someone or some agency that will tries to place/assign blame, find a fall-guy.

After the crises passes over, the whining will stop and everything will get back to normal...

Smoking, drinking, drunk-driving fatalities, suicides, murders , cancer, diabetes/heart disease and killing babies will resume so we can all de-stress and life will be good again.


10 posted on 03/14/2021 12:10:45 PM PDT by Bellagio
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Clearly, there are PLENTY of operational benefits in flagging a cruise ship under an ensign of convenience. These benefits touch on tax liabilities, labor laws and tort liability to name but a few.

But ultimately, I think the primary reason there are no US flagged cruise ships is that there are no US cruise ship builders. Without a US cruise ship builder, it’s impossible to put a US flag on a foreign built vessel that will be used commercially because of the cabotoge requirements spelled out in the Jones Act.

This is unlike the airplane industry, for example, where an airline can buy an Airbus or other foreign brand and put that plane into service on domestic routes flying a US flag. That is simply not legal under the Jones Act.


11 posted on 03/14/2021 12:14:58 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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I’ve never been on a cruise ship.. but I have known for years that those things are floating germ/virus bowls..


13 posted on 03/14/2021 12:36:36 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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The ‘election infection’ served its purpose and now remains the extinguishment of the fraud in a manner that most sheep don’t realize extent of the Hoax perpetuated on the gullible. I have the disbelief that this country is so populated with Idiots.


15 posted on 03/14/2021 1:27:52 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/

Mar 9, 2020,08:02pm EDT|365,089 views
COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy

Fauci then said, “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship. But the fact is that if you have…an individual who has an underlying condition, particularly an elderly person who has an underlying condition, I would recommend strongly that they do not go on a cruise ship.”


16 posted on 03/14/2021 1:28:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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Blame Fauci first.


19 posted on 03/14/2021 1:40:49 PM PDT by OKSooner (BFF: Blame Fauci First)
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Who’s to blame?

Very simple. The Chinese Communist Party, aka 共产党 or Gòngchǎndǎng. At the very least, the Gòngchǎndǎng knew of the seriousness of the CCP-Coronavirus, ceasing internal flights within China, yet allowing international flights for weeks, spreading the virus around the world. There is also STRONG evidence that the virus was concocted at the People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) level 4 bio-lab in Wuhan.

Here’s a ‘fun fact’ about Communist China and the PLA. The country of China technically does not have a military. In the US, the military pledges allegiance to the Constitution of the United States, I believe. In China, the PLA pledges allegiance to the Gòngchǎndǎng, or Chinese Communist Party. The responsibility for the virus and cover up falls squarely at the feet of Xi Jinping!


20 posted on 03/14/2021 1:54:28 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see... )
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What’s REALLY EMBARRASSING is that both sides of these lawsuits can quote the same person several days apart to make their case. Of course that would be Dr. Fauchi.


22 posted on 03/14/2021 2:04:05 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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Blame Fauci first.


24 posted on 03/14/2021 2:25:09 PM PDT by OKSooner (BFF: Blame Fauci First)
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The March 2020 cruise ships were exactly how we know Covid is a farce. 2 old people died. Tragedy, yes. But of of the 3000 people on board, not bad for a perfect microcosm for infection!


25 posted on 03/14/2021 2:25:18 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Apparently Carnival has some big announcement tomorrow, Monday...

They will either say June is cancelled or maybe its that the Mardi Gras is finally on her way here from Barcelona where shes been stuck for the last 3 months...

Or it may be that we will need the vaccine to cruise...

or it may be that they are bankrupt...


28 posted on 03/14/2021 5:14:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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