Posted on 05/07/2021 8:51:53 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
What a refreshingly level-headed reply!
And, we likely reached herd immunity, here in the USA, months ago.
TPTB just don’t want to admit it because it’s a beneficial moving goal post.
‘Why did we allow this totally unscientific, deadly, politicized tyranny?’
future generations will be heatedly debating that question...
From what I have heard, the administration is not counting those who previously contracted COVID-19 in the “herd immunity numbers.”
They want 70%+ of entire US citizens to be vaccinated...and I have heard higher percentages...
‘Vaccines can cause great harm is what I learned from my experience...’
and...? even properly tested and administered vaccines are going to cause distress to some people, it’s a fact of life...
it sucks when you’re the one who gets sick, I get that, but placed against the historical health benefits, vaccination has proven to be a tremendous boon to both the human and animal populations...
“vaccination has proven to be a tremendous boon “
This Fauci Flu shot is NOT A VACCINATION.
Vaccinations generally are helpful.
‘From what I have heard, the administration is not counting those who previously contracted COVID-19 in the “herd immunity numbers.”
more piss poor messaging from our medical elites...
‘This Fauci Flu shot is NOT A VACCINATION.’
a vaccine is a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce an immunity from a particular disease; all the current shots that are on the market do exactly that...
this is Immunology 101; so what is your definition of a vaccine, and how do the current ones differ from that definition...?
I almost never throw pejorative words at others, but this Chinese virus has wasted year and half of my life and I am mad as heck. Before covid, I was catching a cruise every 4 months on average and now nothing since February 2020.
This is an insidious virus not because it kills many healthy people but it is very very infectious. Just talking to an infected person for 10 minutes will get you infected. Only way to kill this pandemic is via herd immunity. But if 30-40% refuse the jab, herd immunity ain’t coming any time soon.
Talk about loss of freedom, the sooner we get everyone vaxxed, the sooner we can return to normal life. Can you blame me for the flat earther behavior of so many?
Think of this....ONE BILLION humans have now received the jab. Have you heard of 10 million dropping dead? How about ONE MILLION suffering dire side effects? Have you got any such links showing 1 million deaths from the vaccine? If not, the vaccines are 99.9% safe. You chances of getting into a car accident are bigger by orders of magnitude.
Though you are not a woman, (I have seen your oft-posted video of yourself working out), you’re old enough to have been around during the IUD Dalkon Shield debacle.
Let me refresh your memory...From article:
(Emphasis w/CAPS mine.)
In 1971, A.H. Robins Company put an IUD called the Dalkon Shield on the market. It was AGRESSIVELY (and PREMATURELY) MARKETED as a HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, MODERATELY PRICED means of preventing pregnancy. Just 3 YEARS LATER however, it was PULLED from the market because of an ill-designed removal string that funneled bacteria into the uterus because it wasn’t sealed on either end. This facilitated PELIVC INFLAMAMATORY DISEASE, SEPSIS, and eventually INFIRTILITY. MORE than 300,000 LAWSUITS were filed against A.H. Robins, forcing the company to file for bankruptcy.6
https://www.reproductiveaccess.org/2013/01/a-history-the-iud/
The Dalkon Shield was found to cause SEVERE INJURY to a DISPOROPORTIONATELY LARGE PERCENTAGE of women, which eventually led to numerous lawsuits, in which juries AWARDED MILLIONS of dollars in compensatory and punitive DAMAGES.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalkon_Shield*
As the Dalkon Shield was not a drug, it was NOT SUBJECT TO THE EXTENSIVE TESTING required by the FDA. The FDA requested that it be taken off the market, though a formal RECALL was NEVER ISSUED. The A.H. Robins Company stopped selling the device in 1974, and manufacturing ceased in 1976.
https://www.britannica.com/science/Dalkon-Shield
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Take-Away:
Many of the women who rushed out to get the novel IUD felt liberated and free as it was highly effective; however 3 years later when data confirming side effects emerged, they were not feeling so liberated and free. Note women damaged from this new device were able to sue...
So based on history, the jab-hesitant “flat earthers”(whom you regularly deride on this site) are waiting to see if unforeseen side effects emerge over a reasonable amount of time...Countless examples exist showing it is not always smart to be a an early market adaptor for pharmaceuticals—especially those experimental in nature.
Interesting note:
*CDC thought both the company’s arguments and the plaintiff’s arguments had merit...Hmm CDC
‘But if 30-40% refuse the jab, herd immunity ain’t coming any time soon.’
logically, a good amount of that 30-40 percent already were infected and recovered, and now have at least some antibody protection...that the medical community won’t acknowledge that fact we can’t blame on ‘flat earthers...
‘Have you got any such links showing 1 million deaths from the vaccine?
what are you yelling at me for...? I’m on your side here, I’m just urging you to choose your words more carefully...
Comparing apples and oranges. The shield stays in there a lon long time. The 1/2 cc of clear liquid injected in me 8 weeks ago has been chewed up by the liver and passed out as urine.
I see a recurring theme here. One poster was harmed by the H1N1 vaccine so now he/she is afraid of all vaccines.
One Dalkon shield created problems, so now anything new comes along is suspect! That is classic flat earther.
Face palm to my head...You really missed the point, but hopefully some get it.
Pattern? Maybe...and it is called human nature...That is how we have survived. Of course, if a person gets burned near a fire, they are going to keep a safer distance than perhaps the person who has never seen fire and has not gotten burned (eh maybe by govt or pharma?). If a person get T-boned at an intersection, they are going to likely wait a little longer before proceeding into the intersection...
You deride people for being questioning and cautious, and trying to do research. Since the government has continually flip-flopped on COVID, herd immunity, masks, safe distancing, lockdowns, etc. and the vaccines have been politicized (Pfizer announced as soon as the election was called for Biden), of course many people are being cautious. Frankly, I am surprised anyone on FR is not skeptical.
Not apples to oranges? LOL there is so much similarity in the initial rollouts of the 2 non-FDA approved therapies (Dalkon Shield and the COVID gene therapies) it is rather surprising that you missed that...but maybe it is because you are a man so don’t understand how women from that era felt...Read it again.*
It is not about the liquid in the syringe...It is about what happens to your body...and what stays...No one knows what happens in the course of 3 years...but we will ...time will tell. And you will get to have lots of boosters so really it is on going for you and you will get to post to us your positive videos and smugly call us flat-earthers for the foreseeable future...
Though Early market adaptors often regret not waiting for tweaks to major improvements, I am happy for you and your pleasure with your choice.
What I am not happy about is the deriding and frequent attacks on anyone who is choosing to wait and see or choosing not to take the jab for a variety of reasons...
Here’s an idea, how about you stop putting down those of us who don’t agree with you?
FR is supposed to be a forum for free thought and discussion.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Sign me proud to be a hesitant skeptic.
*BTW, there are concerns about women’s menstrual cycles being affected by the gene modifying jab therapies...another similarity in the 2 stories...Women of child bearing age and parents of younger girls (who are Fauci’s next target) should be very cautious...
What is the source? That says nothing about hospitalization rates.
Wait. I see the source. You aren’t wrong about my eyes. Lol.
Ok I looked at the source.
They are calculating hospitalization rates by population?
It should be by x/y with x=hosp and y = infections.
Hospitalization rates to check the severity of the disease should go by infections. Not population. That doesn’t give a clear picture.
More people who are getting covid are being hospitalized this year. It’s double the rate.
Do the math.
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