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COVID: is the virus real?
Jon Rappoport's Blog ^ | August 20, 2020? | Jon Rappoport

Posted on 07/01/2021 3:04:53 PM PDT by wannabegeek

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To: SecAmndmt

SecAmndmt wrote: “Dr Peter McCullough MD has published on treatment for cv19. That’s because he is editor of the journal. “
What journal might that be?


61 posted on 07/02/2021 7:18:09 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ctdonath2
“This is “moon landing was faked” level stupid. To take that much, that deeply, on that large a scale, would require an impossibly large/complex/robust conspiracy.“.

Normally I would agree but this is different. The lies in this case are in your face absurd. The government has OPENLY lied about every aspect of covid and the entire medical field has played along. Doctors and hospitals were bribed with tax money and intimidated and attacked if they did not support the lies. The lies about the danger of HCQ are so absurd it defies common sense and reason. HCQ has been in massive widespread use for more than a half century and is one of the safest drugs known. This is simply fact yet the very people saying they have isolated a new virus are the same ones now claiming HCQ is completely ineffective and comes with potentially deadly side effects. The hospitals have been bought off by government subsidies. The doctors have been threatened and intimidated. No part of this “ pandemic” has been subjected to any level of objective scrutiny and those who have attempted to do so (doctors) have been silenced and cancelled. So you can choose to believe people who have been proven to be lying on every level but the reality is we already know the great majority if not all of this supposed pandemic and the government response to if has been and continues to be nothing but lies. Believing any of the covid lies is what is “moon landing was faked” stupid.

62 posted on 07/02/2021 7:58:03 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: ctdonath2
You never answered the question. How do you know you didn’t just have the flu?

In order to believe covid exists we have to first believe the flu somehow disappeared.

Millions saw the Apollo missions with their own eyes. How many people have seen this virus?

63 posted on 07/02/2021 8:13:38 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: DugwayDuke

I do not know.

But he’s associate Professor of medicine at Baylor and he is still in clinical practice, and he has devoted that practice to treating cv19 with therapeutics. If you listen to his testimony to the TX state Senate you will learn all about how 85% of the cv19 dead died through medical neglect, and not lack of effective treatment.


64 posted on 07/02/2021 8:18:03 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: wannabegeek

“Did you have shortness of breathing? Did you have 103°F fever? Loss of smell? Loss of taste buds?”

Has ANYBODY EVER been sick before in their lives???

Sheesh... who hasn’t had a chest cold that - gives you shortness of breath?
or... a common flu that didn’t give you a fever?
And who hasn’t temporarily lost their sense of smell and taste when they have a bad head cold??? This is ludicrous.... as though it’s never happened before in the history of mankind..

I’m 58 and have caught one type of bug or another EVERY last year of my life. Guess what - I was born with an IMMUNE SYSTEM... I got better.

Yep, even had this dreaded supposed black-death-like “Covid”.. it was no worse than anything else I’ve ever had. And before I hear the - “Not everybody had it as easy as you...” nonsense, it’s the same with ANY sickness. - to some it affects lighter and some harsher.

If you’re 75, been overweight, suffer from high blood pressure... a common cold is life-threatening to you.

This dumb “Covid” monster still has a 99.7% survivability rate. It is nothing to panic over unless you’ve panicked at every virus that came down the pike since you were born.

Also, they’ve been caught inflating the numbers so many times that it MUST be questioned why.

Also also... has anybody ever seen so much money gone into advertising every aspect of this thing? Ever?? Our government is spending millions of OUR tax dollars to push fear and push us into a jab that is supposedly a magic cure for a virus that they can’t or won’t explain.

- So... how does one come up with a cure for a virus you don’t even know how it originates or what it is? Impossible.


65 posted on 07/02/2021 8:21:29 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: SecAmndmt

SecAmndmt wrote: “I do not know.”
“But he’s associate Professor of medicine at Baylor and he is still in clinical practice, and he has devoted that practice to treating cv19 with therapeutics. If you listen to his testimony to the TX state Senate you will learn all about how 85% of the cv19 dead died through medical neglect, and not lack of effective treatment.”

Are you aware that he has been busted for making “inaccurate”, “misleading”, and “unsupported” claims?

Title: “Vaccines are a safer alternative for acquiring immunity compared to natural infection and COVID-19 survivors benefit from getting vaccinated, contrary to claims by Peter McCullough”

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/vaccines-are-a-safer-alternative-for-acquiring-immunity-compared-to-natural-infection-and-covid-19-survivors-benefit-from-getting-vaccinated-contrary-to-claims-by-peter-mccullough/


66 posted on 07/02/2021 8:26:42 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
So hundreds of thousands of health care professionals have been complicit in the ‘murder of 500,000 people via medical neglect’? Do you realize how absurd that claim is?“

It’s not absurd at all. Those same medical professionals are claiming HCQ is dangerous and ineffective yet we have DECADES of medical journals that prove otherwise. Do you know how absurd it is to have governors and medical boards all across the country ban the use of a drug that has been safely in use for over a half a century? Even if you believe HCQ is ineffective in treating this virus we know for a fact there is almost ZERO risk in taking it. So why the bans? The answer is this whole pandemic is a scam. HCQ and other known and completely safe treatments would have derailed the fraud so it had to be banned.

67 posted on 07/02/2021 8:39:31 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

I’ve had the flu many times.
This, clearly, wasn’t the flu.


68 posted on 07/02/2021 8:46:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: precisionshootist

Millions have had it. There’s more senses than just sight.


69 posted on 07/02/2021 9:05:03 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: precisionshootist

Everything you reference is circumstantial. Yes there’s a lot of stupid around Covid, but central fact is: a distinctly different disease emerged and spread, a great many contracted it, many suffered gravely from it, science studied it, unique antibodies are produced against it, and vaccines were concocted for it.

If you’re that doubting, go get a sample from someone suffering it, isolate the virus, quantify it, and let us know what you find - just like thousands of researchers have reported.


70 posted on 07/02/2021 9:10:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yes millions have had the flu.


71 posted on 07/02/2021 9:11:16 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: reasonisfaith

Clinical presentation of COVID-19 is radically different from Influenza. No actual doctor anywhere would confuse the two.

And producing similar symptoms doesn’t make the viruses any less different. The “common cold” is a set of symptoms produced by any of over 200 different viruses from multiple families. Four of those are from the coronavirus family. Most colds are caused by a virus in the rhinovirus family. Adenoviruses also cause a lot of colds. Totally different families of viruses each producing similar symptoms. The human body only has but so many tools to deal with infections, so there’s some overlap in what your immune response looks like.


72 posted on 07/02/2021 9:14:32 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: precisionshootist

The flu didn’t “disappear”; it was unable to effectively transmit in an environment where everyone was taking extreme precautions to avoid spreading a respiratory infection. Influenza spreads similar to how COVID-19 does, but the rate of spread (R0) is far lower (about 0.9-1.3 for seasonal flu vs 4.5-5.3 for the latest COVID-19 variants).

Between the masks, social distancing, lack of large gatherings, lack of widespread travel, significant increase in hand washing, etc. flu didn’t stand much of a chance. That said, there were still over 1,700 cases of flu this past season (Sept 2020- Apr 2021). Over 800,000 flu tests were performed during that time.


73 posted on 07/02/2021 9:28:08 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ctdonath2
"If you’re that doubting, go get a sample from someone suffering it, isolate the virus, quantify it, and let us know what you find - just like thousands of researchers have reported."

Researchers? Ha! Like the consensus of thousands of researchers who have proven global warming is man made and real? Those kind of researchers?

This whole scam just like global warming falls apart as soon as any objectivity whatsoever is applied.

What happened to the flu? Why did it suddenly disappear with the emergence of covid?

The answer is the flu didn't go anywhere. We just renamed it.

Yes there could be a real covid 19 virus just like there is a real polio virus but 99.9 percent of the "cases" are just the seasonal flu. Covid 19 if it even exists is likely very very rare and you have fallen for the medical version of global warming.

74 posted on 07/02/2021 9:43:12 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

precisionshootist wrote: “It’s not absurd at all. Those same medical professionals are claiming HCQ is dangerous and ineffective yet we have DECADES of medical journals that prove otherwise.”

First question: how can we have DECADES of medical journals proving HCQ is effective against COVID when COVID has only been around since 2019?

Second point: the risks of taking HCQ are more than ZERO. Some of the warnings for HCQ include:
Warnings
Hydroxychloroquine can cause dangerous effects on your heart, especially if you also use certain other medicines including the antibiotic azithromycin (Z-Pak). Seek emergency medical attention if you have fast or pounding heartbeats and sudden dizziness (like you might pass out).

Taking hydroxychloroquine long-term or at high doses may cause irreversible damage to the retina of your eye that could progress to permanent vision problems.

https://www.drugs.com/hydroxychloroquine.html

Third point: Please explain why hundreds of thousands of health care professionals were complicit in the murder of over 500,000 Americans.


75 posted on 07/02/2021 11:49:34 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
" The flu didn’t “disappear”; it was unable to effectively transmit in an environment where everyone was taking extreme precautions to avoid spreading a respiratory infection. Influenza spreads similar to how COVID-19 does, but the rate of spread (R0) is far lower (about 0.9-1.3 for seasonal flu vs 4.5-5.3 for the latest COVID-19 variants). Between the masks, social distancing, lack of large gatherings, lack of widespread travel, significant increase in hand washing, etc. flu didn’t stand much of a chance. That said, there were still over 1,700 cases of flu this past season (Sept 2020- Apr 2021). Over 800,000 flu tests were performed during that time. "

I hate to break it to ya but you are swallowing a whole load of crap. There is no way mask wearing and hand washing stopped the flu but allowed covid to spread. Thousands die every year in the US from the flu and suddenly no one dies of flu but everyone dies of covid. Put your thinking cap on man!

Here in Texas we had a "massive outbreak" of this highly contagious 5.0 on the fujita scale covid 19 in El Paso. It was so bad hospitals were on the verge of collapse (whatever that means) and they were setting up triage tents (never used of course because it was for show) in the parking lots.

So apply a little logic here. El Paso is one of the most visited cities in Texas. Many many thousands of people travel in and out of El Paso and back to other parts of Texas every single day. This never stopped during this supposed massive covid outbreak. People continued to go in and out of El Paso every day by the thousands. So ask yourself with covid transmitting so easily (much easier than the flu according to you) how did this massive outbreak manage to contain itself to El Paso? Why didn't the thousands of people going in and out of that city every day spread this disease?

The answer is obvious. El Paso is a corrupt city and the hospitals there were using covid to collect massive amounts of federal money. There was no massive outbreak and the hospitals were not over run. No one ever used the tents in the parking lots because it was just theater.

Like global warming covid is a huge scam. Fall for it and you will end up living in a socialist hell hole.

76 posted on 07/02/2021 11:54:43 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: DugwayDuke
"First question: how can we have DECADES of medical journals proving HCQ is effective against COVID when COVID has only been around since 2019?"

The journals prove beyond a shadow of a doubt HCQ is one of the safest drugs known. Is that what you heard from our thousands of medical experts? No it isn't. HCQ's effectiveness against Corona Viruses have been known for years. Do you think President Trump just pulled that out of his butt? Fauchi wrote about HCQ working on Corona viruses himself. HCQ can even be safely taken by pregnant women. There are many doctors in this country and others that have had great success with HCQ and other drugs, yet our medical boards, governors and other authorities have banned the use of these drugs and threatened doctors who prescribe them. DOES THAT SOUND OBJECTIVE TO YOU? DOES THAT SOUND LIKE FOLLOWING SCIENCE?

Yet you STILL believe this drug is dangerous!

In Africa many thousands of people take HCQ on a regular basis for protection against malaria.

We have other known and proven effective treatments for covid yet you still want to keep believing the lies.

"Please explain why hundreds of thousands of health care professionals were complicit in the murder of over 500,000 Americans."

Sorry bud but they don't see it that way. The medical professionals largely follow the CDC which is corrupt beyond repair. If they don't they can lose their jobs, their licenses, their careers and their way of life. They are being intimidated and threatened and if they don't comply their lives and careers will be cancelled.

This isn't hard to figure out. Put your thinking cap on and stop being such and easy mark for socialists.

77 posted on 07/02/2021 12:15:32 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: DugwayDuke

He’s successfully treating almost all his patients.

Anyone who thinks that an experimental vaccine is safer that improving base level immunity via vit D, and treating with therapeutics needs to have their head examined.

Yeah they don’t like McC. McC threatens their vax business.


78 posted on 07/02/2021 12:53:25 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: precisionshootist

So you’re saying every city in every state and every country on Earth are all participating in a massive conspiracy together? A million doctors, 5 million nurses, millions of lab technicians, medical examiners, health department staff, at the city, county, state, and Federal level, and at every level in every country on Earth - all of them are in some coordinated mass conspiracy against the other... what, 20% of the population that isn’t directly running the conspiracy?


79 posted on 07/02/2021 1:22:15 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Clinical presentation of COVID-19 is radically different from Influenza...And producing similar symptoms doesn’t make the viruses any less different.”

You just demonstrated a classic (but low IQ) deceptive technique while contradicting yourself at the same time.


80 posted on 07/02/2021 1:39:32 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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