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A monk in 14th-century Italy wrote about the Americas
The Economist ^ | 25 Sept 2021 | The Economist

Posted on 10/07/2021 7:57:16 PM PDT by Theoria

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Marckalada: The First Mention of America in the Mediterranean Area (c. 1340)


1 posted on 10/07/2021 7:57:16 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv
Marckalada ping.


2 posted on 10/07/2021 7:57:35 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Bookmark


3 posted on 10/07/2021 7:59:55 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Theoria

You have to subscribe to get access to the article.


4 posted on 10/07/2021 8:02:56 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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Who were the giants? Natives? Or Vikings?


5 posted on 10/07/2021 8:06:49 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Theoria

The Vinland Map has recently been proved to be a fake - is this any different?


6 posted on 10/07/2021 8:07:15 PM PDT by decal (MOLON JABE)
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To: Beowulf9
Weird. Worked for me, here is the outline link.
7 posted on 10/07/2021 8:08:08 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Maybe it’s my iPad. That link works but on the left side are ads going all the way down the page over the article so I can’t read it.


8 posted on 10/07/2021 8:20:00 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Theoria

Maybe it’s my iPad. That link works but on the left side are ads going all the way down the page over the article so I can’t read it.


9 posted on 10/07/2021 8:20:01 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Ouch. My fault, the economist is paywall. But, the other link to paper is free. Look at freepmail in a bit.


10 posted on 10/07/2021 8:23:37 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Beowulf9

Oh good grief duplicate post. Wanted to say I got the article, thank you. The part that has the ads is over the part in another language only.


11 posted on 10/07/2021 8:26:20 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Theoria

Whew!
For a moment this was going to be about Milo Rambaldi...
That was close...


12 posted on 10/07/2021 8:26:39 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Theoria

I’m not convinced from this article that it wasn’t something he invented. Who was going to prove him wrong?


13 posted on 10/07/2021 8:33:17 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Theoria

This is a very interesting article. Thank you. This monk, Galvaneus, was pretty industrious.

What is funny is this translator, Ghioldi, had trouble translating the text because (like me) “…rather because he had to deal with inconsistent models: there is evidence that he used some incomplete and unfinished manuscripts by Galvaneus, which were sometimes difficult to read, enriched by marginal notes and slips”.

I hope Galvaneus or Ghioldi get a laugh out of that!


14 posted on 10/07/2021 8:46:43 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Theoria

Great link. Thanks.


15 posted on 10/07/2021 9:05:29 PM PDT by seabeeson
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(“beyond the Ireland there is another smaller island, where no one ever dies. People at a very old age, however, if taken off the island, die immediately).”

😳


16 posted on 10/07/2021 9:15:39 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Same with me


17 posted on 10/07/2021 9:19:51 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Theoria

By the 1300’s Vikings had travelled through out Europe, no doubt spreading tales of discoveries far and wide. That some monk heard and recorded such a tale about lands far to the west is hardly astonishing. In preprinting press days, no surprise that it never went anywhere.
As for “giants,” native Americans were of stature equal to the Vikings and taller than most southern europeans.


18 posted on 10/07/2021 9:22:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: telescope115

The part with the ads is only on the Latin part. Scroll down the rest of the article is ok.


19 posted on 10/07/2021 9:31:29 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Theoria

We know THAT! They landed on Oak Island.


20 posted on 10/07/2021 9:47:06 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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