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Liking Windows 11 because it is Windows 10
Vanity | 10/13/2021 | Self

Posted on 10/13/2021 7:13:32 AM PDT by CptnObvious

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To: ProgressingAmerica
Google-free and Microsoft-free and Apple-free

Slackware?

21 posted on 10/13/2021 7:58:46 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: dinodino
Exactly. Why would one subject oneself to Windows, and all the horrors that go with it? Microsoft is garbage.

Windows 10 is rock solid. So far, Windows 11 appears to be as well. After many, many thousands of hours with Windows on multiple boxes, I have no idea what horrors you're talking about.

22 posted on 10/13/2021 8:02:33 AM PDT by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: CptnObvious

Windows 11 locks you into TPM which essentially means you no longer control what can and cannot run on your system. It gives MS the trigger to be like Apple where it is their way or the highway. They wont pull the trigger until the install base is large enough, but it is coming. It will be for your “protection.”


23 posted on 10/13/2021 8:03:15 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: CptnObvious

I’ve been using it for a few months now through the Beta program. I agree. Other than a tweaked start menu and some minor changes, it is Windows 10.


24 posted on 10/13/2021 8:04:38 AM PDT by mak5
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To: rktman

“Haven’t yet but was hoping for the H1N1 version. “

ROTFLOL!


25 posted on 10/13/2021 8:11:15 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: KevinB

The TCO for Windows is terrible, which is why my company is 100% Mac and Linux.


26 posted on 10/13/2021 8:15:25 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: catnipman

Sad news. Apparently, after checking the requirements, my comp can’t handle W11 with or without H1N1. 😨


27 posted on 10/13/2021 8:25:22 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: dinodino
The TCO for Windows is terrible ...

Perhaps for your application, but for me it has been great. No horrors at all. Granted, I do keep Windows and all my apps on a separate partition than my data. I've been told that makes a big difference in how well Windows performs.

28 posted on 10/13/2021 8:32:35 AM PDT by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: CptnObvious

Sorry, my 18 month old HP Envy X360 has an AMD Ryzen 5 2500u which is “not supported”. This is despite glowing reviews from basically all beta testers who were using 2500u processors. It is similar to the latest version of Microsoft Flight Simulator which warns whenever I start it up that my processor is not good enough, yet it runs smoothly at 1920 x 1080, with most options turned on. I apparently own the Rodney Dangerfield of modern processors. Of course mine has the 25 watt TDP version, I am assuming that Microsoft used the 15 watt version when determining whether it was worthy.

Windows 11 will run on my wife’s laptop with a Intel Core 5 8th generation processor, which was released about the same time as my Ryzen, but she wants nothing to with it. Strangely I bought the Ryzen because it had a vastly superior GPU built in and could handle demanding programs and games better than the 8th generation I 5.


29 posted on 10/13/2021 9:42:54 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: KevinB

The fact that you have to dick around with disk partitions just to get Windows to “perform” should tell you something...


30 posted on 10/13/2021 10:27:27 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: butlerweave
I’m using older hard drives I have lying around , win 11 works ok but it gets confusing ,LOL.

Your loosing a ton of speed every time it switches heads, cylinders and waits for sectors. And as files get closer to the center, it gets slower and slower.

Get a good Solid State Drive with some write caching on it and clone that sucker out. You need an SSD as big as your hard drive or I would recommend no lower than 250GB.

That system probably doesn't have more NVMe capabilities where Windows 11 is headed, but you will notice a Huge performance improvement by going to an SSD if you don't have NVMe capabilities in the BIOS.

Beyond this do a lot of performance tweaks you would have done for Windows 10 with an SSD and Windows 10 alone. Set Advanced System settings to Performance and get rid of the fancy animation and other stuff. Turn off the monitoring by MS under Privacy, Inking etc. Turn off reporting to MS unless you are part of the Windows Insider program.

For SSDs, I always recommend no scheduled optimization. That's only for Hard Drives. I turn off windows indexing and search (now known as sysmain).

I don't use XBOx gaming so I turned that off as well.

I would advise the same on Windows 10 for anyone with an SSD as C:

But I'm expecting to see any performance gains in 11 to be from the NVMe as C: drive. It bypasses the disk controller chip and routes directly to memory over PCIe version 3 and even better with version 4.

Efforts though Direct Storage is supposed to take compressed graphics directly from NVMe as memory directly into the GPU for decompression and use. This is suppose to help gamers a lot as this again bypasses the CPU.

The M.2 NVMe drives has two channels to memory. So if your system has two memory cards in Dual Mode (usually the same vendor). Then the NVMe drive can be twice as fast to memory. The architecture planned for up to 64 channels.

With M.2 Dual Channels, two Cores can be talking to the NVME drive at the same time.

I'm looking for a Dual M.2 system that can handle 2 NVME drives with Hardware write caches. I'll bet it would be awesome when copying files between them and etc. I've learned that most NVMe drives have hardware write cache about 1% of the total capacity. Thus for a 1TB drive that would be 1GB at speeds of up to 16 GB per second.

NVMe drives by themselves when operating beyond the cache. The read and write speeds over PCIe 4 are vastly better than SSDs. Before with an SSD my read speed was 400MB/Sec (benchmarked). With the NVMe drive it is 3264MB/Sec. Random reads and writes are in the 14 GB arena.

I think the NVMe capabilities are just now being explored and the Operating systems are just starting to use it effectively. I'm wondering if virtual memory still thinks it is on a Disk Drive these days. With NVMe it could just see it as another block of Memory!

Njoy

31 posted on 10/13/2021 10:33:02 AM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: dinodino
The fact that you have to dick around with disk partitions just to get Windows to “perform” should tell you something...

No, I do the partitions so I can easily back up and encrypt my data. I get that you don't like Windows. I like it quite a bit. I have experienced no "horrors". To each his own.

32 posted on 10/13/2021 11:28:57 AM PDT by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: CptnObvious

None of my current computers have hardware that permits a Win 11 download. I don’t plan to but a bunch of new compters to get Win 11—but I might buy some newer refurbished computers with better CPU and Ram. I suspect they will be coming on the market at EBAY as first adapters chase after Win 11 by buying new ones.


33 posted on 10/13/2021 11:32:36 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" scares me)
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To: wildbill
after Win 11 by buying new ones

Huh uh. Not if you don't need too. Buy a computer for what you need to do with it, not what the Manufactures want your money for.

If you just do email, light browsing and a bit of YouTube, get a cheap Dual Core, 4GB with an SSD at least 250GB and TPM 2.0 from Ebay. You'll be happy and fine.

IF you are doing video processing, like I am think about NVME C:, a large second drive (maybe Hard Drive) for all the data. Maybe a Quad Core, 8GB, and enough GPU for what you will be doing. Ebay may be able to help keep the cost down.

But if you are a big gamer, pushing the limits of everything, then yeah look at the latest and greatest.

And notice, I didn't say Windows 11. Buy the system and Operating System that can meet your needs where you will be at for about the years that you will need it.

I like Windows for ripping DVDs and playing Bridge online and via an app. Windows 11 is just fine for me cause it's going to be around for quite a while. And like I said it really is Windows 10 with some tweaks (Window dressing) which means it should be hopefully least as stable as Windows 10, which I have loved, for years to come.

I also have an Iphone SE on IOS. I love it too, but I use it for different things, not ripping DVDs.

Buy what works for you and try not to pay too much for anything. That's one sure way not to be well off in Retirement. But that is another Story.

34 posted on 10/13/2021 11:59:38 AM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: CptnObvious

Great vanity and you do seem to live up to your handle.


35 posted on 10/13/2021 11:59:38 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Pollard
LOL   You reminded me that my uncle won awards from IBM for selling OS/2 to Communist China.
36 posted on 10/13/2021 12:04:50 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Jeff Chandler

Nah. I use the easy distros.

I just knew I needed to get off of big tech and I didn’t want to do a half a...... you know.

A half job. My cell phone is also de-Googled.


37 posted on 10/13/2021 12:21:32 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: higgmeister
Great vanity and you do seem to live up to your handle.

Thanks. These days the obvious is often overlooked and common sense is thrown out the windows and not just through Windows 11 (can you tell I like puns?).

I love making old things new or even better. For instance, I found that certain Blu-ray players could be upgraded to 4k for free!

I also am a big proponent of Dave Ramsey's financial steps including his investment strategies using Mutual funds and the use of a financial advisor recommended under his program. Doing this has increased our nest egg about 12 times in ten years. Last year we made 26% in one year the highest we have ever gotten.

I get a lot of ribbing with CptnObvious but yours was nice to see.

CO
Dallas Georgia

38 posted on 10/13/2021 12:28:16 PM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: higgmeister

Which reminds me.

Windows 3.0
Windows 3.1
Windows 3.2

Of course 3.1 was the well known public release and the numeric release numbers are the standard and usually goes to two decimals, 3.0, 3.0.1 etc. At least in development.

I just always got a kick out of how MS would change that up for every new OS. 95b, 98 2nd ed, service pack 2, 3 etc. Trying to hide the fact that an initial release of software usually has a lot of bugs, especially an operating system that has so many variables based on varieties and combos of hardware.


39 posted on 10/13/2021 12:38:52 PM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: dinodino; ProgressingAmerica; Karma_Sherab
You remind me of the Eloi with the talking rings.

You have no idea how it does it but it just does it.

40 posted on 10/13/2021 12:45:21 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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